Windows 10: Windows 10 Includes a Linux Style Package Manager

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  1. Posts : 11,253
    Windows 10 Pro
       31 Oct 2014 #41

    Just stay calm Charlie; the tut looks more intimidating and confusing as what it in reality is. Looks complicated, is simple.
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  2. Posts : 11,253
    Windows 10 Pro
       31 Oct 2014 #42

    Layback Bear said: View Post
    I can understand someone with the job of taking care of 1000 computers this would come in handy.
    For someone like me it would be a toy to play with.

    I would never use it enough to remember the script. I would be spending my time looking for the proper script and then verifying that it was correct before running it. I have done some looking into Power Shell and I get lost in course 101.
    What these online courses don't understand is nooby. It's like taking Trigonometry before you learn 2 X 2 = 4.
    There are no scripts to memorize, extremely little to learn. With OneGet in Windows 10 PowerShell you can for instance install 7zip and Firefox browser at the same time with one command:
    Code:
    Install-Package -Name 7zip, Firefox
    Sit back and relax, both programs will be automatically installed. How difficult is that?

    Or to perform a clean install, then when first time on desktop give one command to install all your software and go to a walk while the programs install. I just did this on a new install which I set up for the screenshots for tutorial. I gave this command straight after a clean install to install my basic stuff at once, with one command:
    Code:
    Install-Package AdobeReader, GoogleChrome, Firefox, Opera, Sysinternals, Screenpresso, GoogleDrive
    Made a pot of coffee and relaxed letting OneGet to install everything instead of hunting down the installers from hard disks or webpages one by one, clicking here and there just to get a few apps installed. Call me stupid if you want to but I prefer this.

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    Hi there

    Most Online courses are pretty horrible - and YOUTUBE / Video presentations are also IMO an abomination for LEARNING stuff. They are fine once you've mastered the basics but there's no substitute for a "Conventional" course -- Self study with Printed course materials which you can refer to / make notes in / go at your own pace / do over and over again.

    I've no problems with ONLINE examinations etc once you've done the coursework or even online tutoring / progress assessment but IMO the basis course should be a sensible self study OFF LINE course -- with the computer to help as a research tool (Google etc).

    There are still quite a few "conventional" courses available -- just download and work through as you would have done at school years ago and use the computer as an extra tool . !!!

    For really good tutorials and how it SHOULD be done just have a look at some of Kari's excellent stuff with Virtualisation issues and Brinks on a lot of other more general topics.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Thanks for your praise, my vanity likes it . Trying my best to make readable tutorials. Did you already check this OneGet one?
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    Windows 7/64 Professional
       31 Oct 2014 #43

    It's beginning to look better the more Kari post.
    I will give a try soon.
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  4. Posts : 11,253
    Windows 10 Pro
       31 Oct 2014 #44

    Chocolatey package manager is ready, no more experimental. See the tut at EF, works without changes the same way in 10: Chocolatey - Install Apps from Command Line

    OneGet is still in experimental phase, yet it is already easy to use. Don't let the complex looks of the tut make you afraid : https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2...mand-line.html
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    Dual boot: Windows 10 Home Insider Build 16179 & W8.1 Pro x64 with Media Center
       01 Nov 2014 #45

    Great work, Kari!
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  6.    01 Nov 2014 #46

    Very good Kari.
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  7.    01 Nov 2014 #47

    Kari said: View Post
    I used Trusted switch because everything in Chocolatey repository can be trusted.
    I would highly recommend against "trusting" repositories. It's currently impossible to say if these packages do not include any nasty surprises and everything has been packaged correctly since these 'packages' have been created by the community.
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  8.    01 Nov 2014 #48

    dmex said: View Post
    Kari said: View Post
    I used Trusted switch because everything in Chocolatey repository can be trusted.
    I would highly recommend against "trusting" repositories. It's currently impossible to say if these packages do not include any nasty surprises and everything has been packaged correctly since these 'packages' have been created by the community.
    While this is true, the packages can be examined quite readily. They're just zip files, and they contain text-readable scripting (typically powershell). So you can see that packages have been downloaded some 10's or 100's of thousands of times, you can be pretty sure it's safe.

    That's where verified signatures come into play.. if you trust the author of the package (they've been making packages for a long time) and their signature is valid, then again.. you probably have little to fear, short of bugs...
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  9. Posts : 11,253
    Windows 10 Pro
       01 Nov 2014 #49

    I have 100% trust for Chocolatey repositories, they work together with Microsoft, Chocolatey repository will be included in final version of PowerShell OneGet. All software packages are tested for malware.
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  10. Posts : 1,468
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       01 Nov 2014 #50

    Thanks Kari


    Kari said: View Post
    Chocolatey package manager is ready, no more experimental. See the tut at EF, works without changes the same way in 10: Chocolatey - Install Apps from Command Line

    OneGet is still in experimental phase, yet it is already easy to use. Don't let the complex looks of the tut make you afraid : https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2...mand-line.html
    Thanks for these tutorials Kari.
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