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  1. Joined : Sep 2015
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       21 Oct 2015 #51

    I agree, but until most sites adopt new technologies it is wise to retain backwards compatibility with present technologies. At least let user decide at his own risk if he wants to enable them or disable them. Don't just remove them completely! In Firefox for example not all plugins are enabled by default, but when first a site ask for one, you get the chance to enable them.
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  2. Joined : Apr 2014
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       21 Oct 2015 #52

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    Well, Xp and Vista are no longer supported my MS. And when IE is dropped users will have a choice.. either Edge or some other browser and there are great ones out there now.
    Correction Vista is still supported for the time being until dropped in early 2016 likely around April like XP was in the first portion of 2014. I just wouldn't plan much with Vista at this time however as far as anything goes. 7 still has until 2020 before that gets the retirement home! That will be a sad day there for sure! "mommy i want my maypo! they took 7 away!"
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  3.    21 Oct 2015 #53

    Night Hawk said: View Post
    Correction Vista is still supported for the time being until dropped in early 2016 likely around April like XP was in the first portion of 2014. I just wouldn't plan much with Vista at this time however as far as anything goes. 7 still has until 2020 before that gets the retirement home! That will be a sad day there for sure! "mommy i want my maypo! they took 7 away!"
    It's actually April 2017 when extended phase support wraps up for Vista.
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  4. Joined : Apr 2014
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       22 Oct 2015 #54

    That wasn't what the initial information about extended support lead everyone to believe there. The word previously had been 2016 while now even 7 has entered it's own extended support cycle as of January 2015. Microsoft Support Lifecycle

    Note "Last updated: August 2015"

    Windows lifecycle fact sheet

    Last updated: August 2015

    In this page




    Every Windows product has a lifecycle. The lifecycle begins when a product is released and ends when it's no longer supported. Knowing key dates in this lifecycle helps you make informed decisions about when to upgrade or make other changes to your software.


    End of support

    End of support refers to the date when Microsoft no longer provides automatic fixes, updates, or online technical assistance. This is the time to make sure you have the latest available update or service pack installed. Without Microsoft support, you will no longer receive security updates that can help protect your PC from harmful viruses, spyware, and other malicious software that can steal your personal information. For more information go to Microsoft Support Lifecycle.
    That was another reference page seen at Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Windows Help
    The big slash however will be for IE in terms of IE 9 will be required for Vista while that would be IE 11 for 7, 8, 8.1 since support will be dropped by MS for anything else! But this isn't anything new either as far as MS announcing support would be ending for older versions of IE like IE 8. A 2014 Computerworld report had already indicated January 2016 as the deadline for everything older then IE 9. Microsoft slashes IE support, sets edict for Jan. 2016 | Computerworld
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  5.    22 Oct 2015 #55

    Night Hawk said: View Post
    That wasn't what the initial information about extended support lead everyone to believe there. The word previously had been 2016 while now even 7 has entered it's own extended support cycle as of January 2015. Microsoft Support Lifecycle
    Here you go. I've never heard ANY other date than April 2017. Even on your link if you put in Vista and look under the extended support date -> April 2017. This was the first place I ever heard otherwise.

    Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Windows Help
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  6. Joined : Oct 2015
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       22 Oct 2015 #56

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    No.. MS will push users of OS's like Visa to use the latest version of IE.. IE11.
    Vista can't use IE above version 9!
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  7.    22 Oct 2015 #57

    AndyFH said: View Post
    Vista can't use IE above version 9!
    Correct. IE 9 is the last Vista version. What I tabled above a few posts ago was correct. Even Windows 8.0 and Server 2012 can only go to IE 10 (but 8.0 can usually be upgraded to 8.1, so that issue is solved)
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  8. Joined : Sep 2015
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       22 Oct 2015 #58

    The point remains. Make Edge as good as IE and then ask us to adopt it. Otherwise give us the choice, don't remove IE 11. Removing all ActiveX support, plugins and Java because they have security issues is not the right approach! Firstly, every serious user has an antivirus and firewall installed. Windows 10 have Windows Defender and Firewall, so even if you don't install third-party solutions you should be safe if they are kept activated and updated. Secondly, the right approach is to patch security holes, not remove the feature entirely! Yes, as some suggested we are moving to new technologies, no doubt. But until most of the sites adopt these new safer technologies, it is advisable to keep backwards compatibility with current technologies, otherwise the browser cannot be used from all the Windows 10 users, and they will just reject it and use another! Common Sense! And new technologies are not super-safe! I bet hackers sooner or later will find a way to exploit them and do damage on our computers. What Microsoft will do then? Remove these technologies again and go for even newer? This is not logical, as you can see!

    So either put all features into Edge if you want to persuade us to use it, or just forget about it! We are going to use third-party browsers that still have the features we want!
    Last edited by spapakons; 22 Oct 2015 at 11:13.
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  9. Joined : Jul 2015
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       22 Oct 2015 #59

    spapakons said: View Post
    The point remains. Make Edge as good as IE and then ask us to adopt it. Otherwise give us the choice, don't remove it.
    Not as good as IE but better which will come in time.
    But myself I have already dumped IE and purely using Browser Edge and Bing
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  10. Joined : Aug 2015
    Raleigh, NC, USA
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       22 Oct 2015 #60

    spapakons said: View Post
    The point remains. Make Edge as good as IE and then ask us to adopt it.
    I don't want anything only as good as IE. Microsoft should try to make Edge the best browser in existence. Nothing less should be acceptable to them. If they make it good enough, they won't have to beg anybody to try it.
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