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  1.    14 Oct 2015 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob View Post
    If you're on RTM and its fully activated you shouldn't have to put in a key to do a reinstall, the servers should activate you, but things can go wrong, so I'd do a backup before doing anything and make sure the backup works.

    If something goes wrong and you haven't got a key you're pretty much screwed without a backup.
    Thank you I did a backup when I upgraded from 8.1
    So will make sure I back up again all I wanted to know was about the key but thank you again for reminding me
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  2.    14 Oct 2015 #22

    Quote Originally Posted by shipinomore10 View Post
    Superfly I used that great tool of yours for getkey before and after I upgraded to windows 10 pro on three of my machines I have all the keys printed out and noted.
    I guess I have all the valid keys that I should ever need to do any type of install clean or upgrade.
    Am I right in my thinking?
    shipinomore
    Yep... all retail, Win 7 COA , OEM:NONSLP as well as OEMM keys should be fine - my concern is that Win 7 OEM:SLP keys are generic and won't work on a clean installs without prior digital entitlement - gonna do some testing tonite and check various scenarios. Good on you for backing up your keys though.
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  3.    14 Oct 2015 #23
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    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by hTconeM9user View Post
    Thank you I did a backup when I upgraded from 8.1
    So will make sure I back up again all I wanted to know was about the key but thank you again for reminding me
    If you've got 8.1 backed up, you can always go back to that and get your key with Belarc.
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  4.    14 Oct 2015 #24
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    Windows 10 x64 Home Build (Redstone(1)) 15063.608

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob View Post
    If you've got 8.1 backed up, you can always go back to that and get your key with Belarc.
    I know but don't ever want to go back love windows 10, don't know why some members don't like it,
    Easiest windows out so far and I have used them all from 95 upwards
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  5.    14 Oct 2015 #25

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob View Post
    If you've got 8.1 backed up, you can always go back to that and get your key with Belarc.
    Have you ever used a Belarc key that worked for re-installs, they never worked for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by hTconeM9user View Post
    I know but don't ever want to go back love windows 10, don't know why some members don't like it,
    Easiest windows out so far and I have used them all from 95 upwards
    I don't care for it because they have removed so many things from previous builds that our household uses. Why give up better versions for 10? The only legitimate answer I can think of, is if you had a pirated version. It is to limiting in my opinion.
    Last edited by Trust_No1; 15 Oct 2015 at 07:45.
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  6.    14 Oct 2015 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boozad View Post
    Then you would no longer be an Insider.
    Boozad,

    That would also actually apply to the retail version of 7 & 8.1 as well wouldn't it?

    From reading the article. You do a clean install of the current insider build, once you installed 10. You change your 10 key to windows 7 or 8.1 key and hopefully activates. The question is do you remain an insider or are you no longer an insider? Zdnet is just theorizing how you do the key. When it is released to the public, we should get more details on how that works.

    Windows 7 Oemslp keys, you would need to use the OEM key listed on the back or bottom of your computer.
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  7.    14 Oct 2015 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by windoz View Post
    Not to be a Richard Head, but did you read the whole thread, as well as the "More" link in the original post and the link in post #4? It seems to be all about "Clean" installations and likely getting 10 Pro by already having 7 or 8 Pro, as well as a few other probable/possible benefits. I know that I would sure be torqued to end up with a "FREE" home version of 10 in return for having given up a "PROFESSIONAL" vrsion of 7 or 8 that I had paid for!
    Just Sayin'
    Gene
    And how exactly are Insders going to test that? Which is the point I quoted and had absolutely nothing to do with what you posted.
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  8.    14 Oct 2015 #28
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    Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

    Next big Windows 10 release will ease activation hassles


    Boozad I have two machines that have Windows 10 pro. I have also created images of each as a failsafe when they had 8.1 pro on them. I also still have the created software when I purchased them. I have done first off the update to windows 10 and it did give me the Pro Version. those are also backed up as image files.
    I have done factory installs from media and no problems I have restored images with no problems. i purchase 8.0 Pro when way back I signed up for testing and got a copy for 39 dollars. this works well doing updates and clean installs.
    I feel that I have done just about everything one can do and it all works fine. I am a insider and I have opted out and then back in and if I would have followed Brinks tutorial then I would have had no probems.
    I am not worried at this point.
    Shipinomore
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  9.    14 Oct 2015 #29

    There is a special file called pkeyconfig-downlevel that has been added to the lastest build.
    As noted above OEM:SLP keys are excluded.

    Below are all the editions that qualify for direct upgrade:

    Code:
    Win 8.1 RTM Core OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreN OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreCountrySpecific OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM Professional OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalN OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM Core OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreN OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreCountrySpecific OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8.1 RTM Professional OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalN OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8.1 RTM Core Retail
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreN Retail
    Win 8.1 RTM Professional Retail
    Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalN Retail
    Win 8.1 RTM Core OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalWMC Retail
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnected OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnected OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnected Retail
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedN OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedN OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedN Retail
    Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudent OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudent OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudent OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudent Retail
    Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudentN OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudentN OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8.1 RTM ProfessionalStudentN Retail
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedSingleLanguage OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedSingleLanguage OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedCountrySpecific OEM:DM
    Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnectedCountrySpecific OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8.1 RTM Professional;ProfessionalN Volume:MAK
    Win 8 RTM CoreN Retail
    Win 8 RTM Core Retail
    Win 8 RTM ProfessionalN Retail
    Win 8 RTM ProfessionalN Retail
    Win 8 RTM Professional Retail
    Win 8 RTM ProfessionalWMC Retail
    Win 8 RTM CoreN OEM:DM
    Win 8 RTM CoreN OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8 RTM CoreCountrySpecific OEM:DM
    Win 8 RTM CoreCountrySpecific OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:DM
    Win 8 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8 RTM Core OEM:DM
    Win 8 RTM Core OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8 RTM ProfessionalN OEM:DM
    Win 8 RTM ProfessionalN OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8 RTM Professional OEM:DM
    Win 8 RTM Professional OEM:NONSLP
    Win 8 RTM Core OEM:DM
    Win 8 RTM Professional OEM:DM
    Win 8 RTM CoreCountrySpecific Retail
    Win 8 RTM CoreSingleLanguage Retail
    Win 8 RTM CoreSingleLanguage OEM:DM
    Win 8 RTM Professional;ProfessionalN Volume:MAK
    Windows 7 Home Basic OEM:COA
    Windows 7 Home Basic OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 Home Basic Retail
    Windows 7 Home BasicN OEM:COA
    Windows 7 Home BasicN OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 Home BasicN Retail
    Windows 7 Home Premium OEM:COA
    Windows 7 Home Premium OEM:COA
    Windows 7 Home Premium OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 Home Premium Retail
    Windows 7 Home PremiumN OEM:COA
    Windows 7 Home PremiumN OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 Home PremiumN Retail
    Windows 7 Professional OEM:COA
    Windows 7 Professional OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 Professional Retail
    Windows 7 ProfessionalN OEM:COA
    Windows 7 ProfessionalN OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 ProfessionalN Retail
    Windows 7 Starter OEM:COA
    Windows 7 Starter OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 Starter Retail
    Windows 7 StarterN OEM:COA
    Windows 7 StarterN OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 StarterN Retail
    Windows 7 Ultimate OEM:COA
    Windows 7 Ultimate OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 Ultimate Retail
    Windows 7 Ultimate Retail
    Windows 7 UltimateN OEM:COA
    Windows 7 UltimateN OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 UltimateN Retail
    Windows 7 StarterE Retail
    Windows 7 UltimateE Retail
    Windows 7 UltimateE OEM:COA
    Windows 7 ProfessionalE Retail
    Windows 7 StarterE OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 UltimateE OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 UltimateE Retail
    Windows 7 HomePremiumE OEM:COA
    Windows 7 StarterE OEM:COA
    Windows 7 ProfessionalE Retail
    Windows 7 HomeBasicE Retail
    Windows 7 StarterE OEM:COA
    Windows 7 HomeBasicE Retail
    Windows 7 HomePremiumE Retail
    Windows 7 ProfessionalE OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 ProfessionalE OEM:COA
    Windows 7 HomePremiumE OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 HomePremiumE OEM:COA
    Windows 7 HomeBasicE OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 HomePremiumE OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 HomeBasicE OEM:COA
    Windows 7 ProfessionalE OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 ProfessionalE OEM:COA
    Windows 7 ProfessionalE OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 All Volume Editions Volume:MAK
    Windows 7 Home PremiumE OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 SP1 ProfessionalN OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 SP1 ProfessionalN OEM:COA
    Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasic Retail:WAUx
    Windows 7 SP1 StarterN OEM:COA
    Windows 7 SP1 HomePremiumN OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasicN OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 SP1 UltimateN OEM:COA
    Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate Retail:WAUx
    Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasicN Retail
    Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasic OEM:COA
    Windows 7 SP1 Professional OEM:COA
    Windows 7 SP1 HomePremium OEM:COA
    Windows 7 SP1 UltimateN OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 SP1 StarterN Retail
    Windows 7 SP1 Starter Retail
    Windows 7 SP1 StarterN OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 SP1 Starter OEM:COA
    Windows 7 SP1 ProfessionalN Retail
    Windows 7 SP1 HomePremiumN Retail
    Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasic OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 SP1 Professional Retail:WAUx
    Windows 7 SP1 HomePremium OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 SP1 Starter OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 SP1 UltimateN Retail
    Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate OEM:COA
    Windows 7 SP1 ProfessionalN Retail:WAUx
    Windows 7 SP1 Professional Retail
    Windows 7 SP1 Professional OEM:NONSLP
    Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate Retail
    Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasic Retail
    Windows 7 SP1 HomePremium Retail:WAUx
    Windows 7 SP1 HomePremiumN OEM:COA
    Windows 7 SP1 HomeBasicN OEM:COA
    Windows 7 SP1 HomePremium Retail
    Windows 7 SP1 UltimateN Retail:WAUx
    Windows 7 SP1 HomePremiumN Retail:WAUx
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  10.    14 Oct 2015 #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    There is a special file called pkeyconfig-downlevel that has been added to the lastest build.
    As noted above OEM:SLP keys are excluded.

    Below are all the editions that qualify for direct upgrade:
    @Superfly
    What do you mean by direct upgrade?

    All,

    This is how I assume things will be done but I could be wrong.

    For those who have OEM:SLP keys.

    If doing an upgrade from windows 7 OEM:SLP. Change your key to the one on the back or bottom of machine. Activate, reboot, then install windows 10 using windows update, iso or media creation tool. This should also allow you to do a clean install of windows 10 in the future without using a key. If you want to do a clean install, install windows 10, then you would need to insert or change your windows 10 key to windows 7 oem key that listed on the back or bottom of the machine. It is still not clear how the windows 7/8.x key is going to be inserted.



    After my testing with builds and the release. I actually prefer the upgrade route. It keeps everything installed.
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