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  1.    16 Oct 2015 #391
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaknapceu View Post
    I have Windows in English language then why Cortana isnt here ?
    Hi!
    Please read this from MS:
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...9-71d12d264567
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  2.    16 Oct 2015 #392
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    So it appears that MS has redressed the balance from turning RETAIL key installations to effective OEM installations on the same device, to turn OEM installations to RETAIL licenses for any new device they get installed on.
    I can only speak about this based on my own tests. I believe the information is factual but, as I said, it's only based on my own test installs and activations.

    It looks that whatever install and activation method is used, the resulting Windows 10 Insider installation will always be flagged as Retail. I believe this happens because the generic Windows 10 key used in digitally entitled activations is a Retail key. One of the many tests I have not made yet is if that license will be transferable, if a qualifying OEM Windows when upgraded to this Retail Windows 10 can be transfered to new hardware.

    Our esteemed fellow geek (or rather "geekette" ) @simrick has had an interesting chat with MS tech support about this subject, I was unable to find her posts about this now but it just might be that the free upgrade option offers a (strange) way to get a non-transferable OEM license to be switched to a transferable Retail license.

    Quote Originally Posted by jaknapceu View Post
    I have Windows in English language then why Cortana isnt here ?
    Have you set the computer location correctly? If the display language used is US English, the location must be set to US, and accordingly, if the display language is UK English as in my case, the location must be set to United Kingdom:

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    If the display language and selected region, computer location do not match, Cortana will not work.

    Kari
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  3.    16 Oct 2015 #393
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    ClusterHead, Kari:

    Thanks it works but I must have English keyboard layout. If you look at this video the guy have SVK keyboard layout and Cortana works Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview [BUILD 10565] - YouTube
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  4.    16 Oct 2015 #394
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    Cortana


    Quote Originally Posted by jaknapceu View Post
    I have Windows in English language then why Cortana isnt here ?
    Hi jaknapceu,

    I've had the same problem. Win10 English version, German keyboard, metric system ... but Cortana is only working if region is set to US ;-)

    Chris

    may be with UK also - don't know
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  5.    16 Oct 2015 #395
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    <snip> but it just might be that the free upgrade option offers a (strange) way to get a non-transferable OEM license to be switched to a transferable Retail license.<snip>
    Thanks for that Kari - It's not so strange that a Windows upgrade goes from OEM->RETAIL, after all, the cheap upgrade (£14.99 in the UK) for Windows 7 purchased during a certain time window before Windows 8 RTM'ed did exactly that.

    I have not yet upgraded a qualifying Windows 7 or 8 installation - they are supposed to retain the transferability (or lack of) and Channel of the OS Upgraded from - do they show in their license as RETAIL Channel too?
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  6.    16 Oct 2015 #396
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    ... do they show in their license as RETAIL Channel too?
    Yes, as far as I understand it. Whatever channel before the upgrade, whatever activation method and key, the channel is always shown as RETAIL.
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  7.    16 Oct 2015 #397
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    No, Gary, it's up to you to show proof of your statement. You need to show the source of your statement, whatever it may be.

    When someone makes a claim such as this against Microsoft, it's not up to the denizens in this forum to prove the charges false; we need to be able to go to the source of your claims. IOW, you made the statement; you need to show proof that what you said is correct.

    Why do you think Brink, LABeeman, z3r010, etc. show the source of whatever they're reporting on?
    I guess that you failed to read the post where I said I was wrong The source I had was just another user on a forum..
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  8.    16 Oct 2015 #398
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    No, Gary was just plain wrong. Gary also has to learn that not everything you read in the Newspapers are accurate, the same applies to The Net More so.
    Quote Originally Posted by jyusa View Post
    I admire a person like this. Truly!
    Thank you, I appreciate that!
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  9.    16 Oct 2015 #399
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    @Kari
    It's in here somewhere.

    Forced Download $Windows.~BT folder appeared - Page 2 - Windows 10 Forums


    Actually, to update, I have had 2 conversations with MS tech support, and both times they said that retail licenses maintain transfer rights after upgrading. It also states that in the EULA/MSLT that you agree to when installing.

    Interestingly, when I asked if I had to first install the W7/W8.x before upgrading when I transfer to a new computer, they said I could use the specific ESD/ISO for that system and skip installing the qualifying OS first.

    Edit: here it is:

    Forced Download $Windows.~BT folder appeared - Page 3 - Windows 10 Forums

    So, after a callback from MS Store Answer Desk, I am told this is the answer:

    When you go to upgrade a qualifying full retail license, you should download the ISO, save it to a flash drive or DVD, and mark it for future reference. The specific ISO downloaded has the activation information in it for that particular qualifying full retail license. When you retire that system, and remove the OS from it, use this ISO to transfer the W10 OS to the new equipment, and it will see that it was an upgrade to an activated system, and there should be no problem with transfer/activation.
    Last edited by simrick; 16 Oct 2015 at 11:23. Reason: added 2nd link
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  10.    16 Oct 2015 #400
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    I guess that you failed to read the post where I said I was wrong The source I had was just another user on a forum..
    You didn't have to scream at me!
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