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  1.    14 Oct 2015 #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Dear Wynona, see the highlighted parts in the the same post of mine you quoted:
    Well, duh! My apologies, Kari. I thought I'd read everything you did, but for some reason I didn't finish the post.

    I'm going to delete that post, since it's not relevant.

    Edit: Well, poo, they didn't delete.
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  2.    14 Oct 2015 #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    Be nice if all menus were consistent.

    Attachment 42683
    i agree, Edwin. All the variations drive me crazy. I still like the control panel, too. At least when I go there I don't have to do a search to make a system image.
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  3.    14 Oct 2015 #193
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    Same key - multiple activations - I can understand that with the Generic "RTM" Windows 10 keys - but how long will that last with keys from previous versions?

    However, what about OEM pre-installed keys on Windows 7 PCs - people will upgrade those to Windows 10, so there are likely to be a large number of those also identical.

    Also, the OEM keys on the COA stickers that have never been used - will those work too?

    Another complication with retail Windows 8.1 upgrades - there was also the MCE upgrade - will those keys, if not in use, activate Windows 10 build 10565 installations?
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  4.    14 Oct 2015 #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cbarnhorst View Post
    That's not the way Gabe's comment reads. In order for the qualifying product key to work it must already be part of the registration of the device on Microsoft's servers. That means that you must have already done the entitlement upgrade in order to get the device registered in the first place. Don't you think Microsoft already guessed that folks would love to get a free copy of Windows 10 without ever having purchased Windows 7 or 8?
    So what purpose does entering the Windows 7 product key serve? According to your theory, they will be entering a Windows 7 product key into a Windows 10 that is already activated, because a clean install of Windows 10 after an upgrade on that computer activates itself with no product key entered.
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  5.    14 Oct 2015 #195
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    Isn't there a like something like "and if normal activation fails" ?
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  6.    14 Oct 2015 #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    So what purpose does entering the Windows 7 product key serve? According to your theory, they will be entering a Windows 7 product key into a Windows 10 that is already activated, because a clean install of Windows 10 after an upgrade on that computer activates itself with no product key entered.
    From what I think I understand you can now get the ISO via the media creation tool and perform a clean instillation by just entering the 7/8.1 key, no previous activation required. If you have 10 activated on the PC it would be pointless to use the key.
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  7.    14 Oct 2015 #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Isn't there a like something like "and if normal activation fails" ?
    Bingo!! It's just a fail safe for some cases when normal activations fails!
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  8.    14 Oct 2015 #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    From what I think I understand you can now get the ISO via the media creation tool and perform a clean instillation by just entering the 7/8.1 key, no previous activation required.
    It seems that you can only use a qualifying Windows 7 / 8 / 8.1 key to activate Build 10565 without a previous activation. The Media Creation Tool gives you the Build 10240 install media, that build cannot be activated with a qualifying key from an older OS.
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  9.    14 Oct 2015 #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    It seems that you can only use a qualifying Windows 7 / 8 / 8.1 key to activate Build 10565 without a previous activation. The Media Creation Tool gives you the Build 10240 install media, that build cannot be activated with a qualifying key from an older OS.
    I was thinking that when 10565 becomes publicly available then wouldn't that build be available via that media creation tool as well?? Or would it replaced 10240??
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  10.    14 Oct 2015 #200
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    Everything is possible. At the moment you cannot activate install media created with the Media Creation Tool with a qualifying old key.
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