Windows 10: The old Control panel may soon be gone

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  1.    17 Oct 2015 #61

    Don't have a choice really, not at the moment. Since Microsoft insists on setting my time zone to pacific and my location as US, etc, etc. I have to change some settings. On a clean install it's just easier to go to Control Panel and work my way though and set things the way I want, not the way Microsoft assumes they should be. Only now I have to do it in Settings too as some of them, but not all, have been moved. I think more people would want Control Panel than Settings? I don't care really, just do it and put it all in the one stop shop.
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  2. Cliff S's Avatar
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       17 Oct 2015 #62

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Don't have a choice really, not at the moment. Since Microsoft insists on setting my time zone to pacific and my location as US, etc, etc. I have to change some settings. On a clean install it's just easier to go to Control Panel and work my way though and set things the way I want, not the way Microsoft assumes they should be. Only now I have to do it in Settings too as some of them, but not all, have been moved. I think more people would want Control Panel than Settings? I don't care really, just do it and put it all in the one stop shop.
    One advantage(of the settings app), is, the ones you do need a lot you can pin, most CP things you set once and maybe access once a year or not until the next install.
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  3.    17 Oct 2015 #63

    There are a lot I set once and never look at again. The others I can get to with the right click menu. I just pin Settings and Control Panel to my start menu. I'm in Settings a lot more than I go to Control panel with day to day stuff.
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  4.    17 Oct 2015 #64

    Someone will create third party software to have it. Hmmmm, a project........
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  5. Posts : 469
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       17 Oct 2015 #65

    Ideal situation, one interface for all setting.

    Reality, so much to change with so little time.
    Have some in setting now and leave the Control Panel alone. May be we can change that in the next pass!
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  6.    17 Oct 2015 #66

    snoopy51 said: View Post
    Ideal situation, one interface for all setting.

    Reality, so much to change with so little time.
    Have some in setting now and leave the Control Panel alone. May be we can change that in the next pass!
    It will all be in Settings at some point. I wish they'd just do it and be done with it in one shot. If they are just going to move stuff in bits that's going to be a pain when you go looking for a setting and can't find it and go back and forth looking for stuff.
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       17 Oct 2015 #67

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    It will all be in Settings at some point. I wish they'd just do it and be done with it in one shot. If they are just going to move stuff in bits that's going to be a pain when you go looking for a setting and can't find it and go back and forth looking for stuff.
    Ditto.
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       17 Oct 2015 #68

    Just to be sure so as not to confuse as it is easy to do so with members using various builds. I'm on build 10565.

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    It will all be in Settings at some point. I wish they'd just do it and be done with it in one shot. If they are just going to move stuff in bits that's going to be a pain when you go looking for a setting and can't find it and go back and forth looking for stuff.
    It’s going to take some time to port things over to WinRT as they have been since W8 Preview and before. CP being a part of File Explorer is deeply embedded in the system, so much care must be taken to do so. It is very complex in that it’s changing settings and items in File Explorer, Accounts, Registry, and more. It may involve changing many, many lines of code. I should think by Redstone public release (before that in builds for Insiders) all items in CP should all be ported over. Then I think they’ll start working (if not already) on porting File Explorer over (as an app) to WinRT or perhaps release that all at once if they do this at all. Just speculating.

    So far as looking for something, you need not look in the CP, but only in the Settings app. If an item has not been ported over from CP to Settings, it is shown as a link in the Settings app with the familiar CP icon. If it has been ported over it is shown with the gear icon. Let’s say I’m looking to change global OS text size. (I’ll perform this using keyboard) > WinKey/I opens Settings > Tab key focuses search box > Type text, font, or any key word > Arrow (scroll) down to a choice > Press Enter > That category opens no matter if in Settings app or in CP, for it will open to it if in CP.

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    So far as complaints about the new app > Everyone may as well accept the fact that ALL THINGS WILL EVENTUALLY GET PORTED OVER TO WINRT = WINDOWS RUNTIME just as Store apps are written. MS is not implementing this just for changes sake. There are many good reasons both architecturally and marketing. You can read them here: Windows Runtime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. One of the big reasons is indeed touch, but as alphanumeric stated “You still have to click an Icon to open control panel and access an option”.

    So far as comparisons of one vs the other > IMO it’s just as easy to find something in the Settings app as it is in CP, whether manually searching or using search box, which the latter is the quickest IMO. It’s just that it’s been decades we’ve been using CP and accustomed to it. You that are coming from 7 that skipped 8/8,1 are having a difficult time, whereas us that learned 8/8.1 are not. Give it time and it’ll become familiar.

    There is one advantage of CP if looking for an item manually and that that I hope they put in the Settings app is something similar to the icons view of CP. Comparison below. Although we as geeks can do this in our sleep, I think the icon view would be busy and confusing to a commoner, which is perhaps another reason why MS is changing to the app. > To help keep the commoners from making changes they don’t need to be making. How many times have we seen that or heard “I screwed up my system!” > “What did you do?” > “I was in that Control Panel thingie and pressed something.” >”Oh? What did you press?” > “ I don’t remember”.

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       17 Oct 2015 #69

    I'm sorry, but there aren't any advantages to WinRT.

    Yes. MSFT is getting rid of the Control Panel just for fun. They want to alienate their business and serious/advanced users. They truly want to make the ultimate "tablet OS" that runs on desktops. I guess MSFT didn't learn their lesson from Windows 8. I'm surprised at the amount of good reviews that W10 is getting. It should be receiving criticism that's even worse than Windows 8's, since it's way more "tablet-fied" than Windows 8 ever was.
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  10. Cliff S's Avatar
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       18 Oct 2015 #70

    bobjoe said: View Post
    I'm sorry, but there aren't any advantages to WinRT.
    C.A.D=Continuity Across Devices
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