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  1.    19 Oct 2015 #141

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    People stuck on Windows7 are ex XP lovers, but -that does not mean they are right.

    Windows 10 Build 10565 is bij far the best OS Microsoft ever produced.

    If someone does not want the Metro and don't want it, then don't use it.

    Jeff

    The customer is always right. Or so it used to be back in the good days of free enterprise.
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  2.    19 Oct 2015 #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustymars View Post
    The customer is always right. Or so it used to be back in the good days of free enterprise.
    Yeaaaaah??? The customer is right... an what do you do when you have over a billion customers that can't agree on what they want?
    Sorry it has to be asked
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  3.    19 Oct 2015 #143
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    A lot (if not most) Windows-User even don't know what the Control Panel is. They just know where to click to get to the browser (they even don't know that it's called browser), their e-mail and Skype. So, I don't think, it'll matter to them. I want to control the Os as much as I can and adjust and tinker around. And Windows was so far just right for me. But now, when everything goes the "apps-way", I don't like Windows anymore. If I want a tablet, I'll get one.
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  4.    19 Oct 2015 #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by wert View Post
    A lot (if not most) Windows-User even don't know what the Control Panel is. They just know where to click to get to the browser (they even don't know that it's called browser), their e-mail and Skype. So, I don't think, it'll matter to them. I want to control the Os as much as I can and adjust and tinker around. And Windows was so far just right for me. But now, when everything goes the "apps-way", I don't like Windows anymore. If I want a tablet, I'll get one.
    I agree with you. They're trying to " simplify " things so that the common user can feel more at home.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ascaris View Post
    It's a matter of opinion about whether the changes are good or not. Opinions aren't right or wrong. However, the claim that 10 was not designed solely around being the best desktop OS it can be is not in dispute. You may disagree whether that goal was reached with XP, Vista, 7, or any version of MacOS for that matter... but they were all designed only for the desktop.

    Windows 8 and 10 are compromises between two things that don't really need to go together. Each is (at best) a jack of all trades. At worst, 10 is an advertising platform meant to get us to buy other stuff (especially Windows mobile devices) first and a desktop OS second.


    Perhaps-- but it's not available to me yet, so I can't judge it. I know that 10240 doesn't even crack my top 5.
    I would put XP on top, 2k second, 7 third, Vista 4th, 9x fifth... with the understanding that each is evaluated in its own time, not by current standards. 9x is not usable by current standards, of course. I've never used any other versions since 9x, so I can't judge them one way or another.


    Isn't the topic of this thread about how the entire control panel is going to be in a Metro app? What are we supposed to do-- never change the settings? If it were as simple as not using Metro, a lot of the contempt for 10 would be alleviated. Even that, though, would not fully solve it. We'd also have to back out all of the design compromises to accommodate metro (elimination of the Classic/basic themes, elimination of Aero glass, making everything flat and stark and white), that would be even better. Maybe the latest insider builds will make some progress with that; I am hopeful about this.

    The analogy someone else made about Windows 10 detractors coming here to post being like AMD users posting at an Nvidia site is not accurate. AMD and Nvidia are competitors; each would prefer that everyone never use the other's product. 7 and 10, though, are supposed to be different versions of the same thing, and the maker of 7 doesn't even sell it anymore, and is very aggressive in trying to push 7 and 8 users to 10. We'd love to have the option of never using the "other" product-- but there is a definite end date for 7 and 8, and we've been told that 10 is the last Windows there will be. There's no definite point beyond which AMD users will be forced to change to Nvidia (other than AMD going belly up, which I hope does not happen).
    You're absolutely right.
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  5.    19 Oct 2015 #145

    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Yeaaaaah??? The customer is right... an what do you do when you have over a billion customers that can't agree on what they want?
    Sorry it has to be asked
    That's life........
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  6.    19 Oct 2015 #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustymars View Post
    That's life........
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  7.    19 Oct 2015 #147
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    sorry Wert,

    a tablet is not a pc. A tablet is for people who are on a train (as an example) and/or only go on the internet.

    Jeff
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  8.    19 Oct 2015 #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Same for me windows 10 all the way cant wait to find out what else is being added
    Also IE11 die
    Edge Browser for the future
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  9.    19 Oct 2015 #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    sorry Wert,

    a tablet is not a pc. A tablet is for people who are on a train (as an example) and/or only go on the internet.

    Jeff
    My tablet uses the full version of windows 10, everything I can do on my desktop I can do on the tablet

    Why should it only be used on things like trains?

    My tablet is a PC, no difference except the method of input
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  10.    19 Oct 2015 #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    sorry Wert,

    a tablet is not a pc. A tablet is for people who are on a train (as an example) and/or only go on the internet.

    Jeff
    Thanks for this enlightenment.
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