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  1. Cliff S's Avatar
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       #100

    In the warehouse, where I work, they just got a Win10 laptop for the goods receiving area, to book the stock on hand. SAP and ProStore our warehouse management software both run better than on the old Win7 laptop.
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  2. alphanumeric's Avatar
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       #101

    Making a common UI means less work for those at Microsoft coding it. I do believe that would mean reduced costs to the consumer?
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  3. BunnyJ's Avatar
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       #102

    alphanumeric said:
    Making a common UI means less work for those at Microsoft coding it. I do believe that would mean reduced costs to the consumer?
    Could.. but I don't know how much the customers will see in price cuts.
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  4. Cliff S's Avatar
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       #103

    BunnyJ said:
    Could.. but I don't know how much the customers will see in price cuts.
    But hopefully the price doesn't go up:)(so soon).
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  5. BunnyJ's Avatar
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       #104

    Cliff S said:
    But hopefully the price doesn't go up:)(so soon).
    I agree, reducing the code base and the testing cost are huge savings. When was a working programmer I recall how much I had to do testing a 10,000 line program.. I hate to think what MS goes through testing Windows.
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  6. alphanumeric's Avatar
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       #105

    Cliff S said:
    In the warehouse, where I work, they just got a Win10 laptop for the goods receiving area, to book the stock on hand. SAP and ProStore our warehouse management software both run better than on the old Win7 laptop.
    That's usually the deciding factor. Will my legacy must have software run on the new OS. If yes, can I afford the upgrade? If your buying and or replacing the device, usually the answer is yes. The new OS is included in the cost of the new device. The problems start when you have very proprietary legacy software that is very expensive to upgrade or not upgradeable. If that device is isolated from the general internet its no big deal to keep using it. We had a lot of stuff like that where I used to work. It had dedicated isolated connections to other equipment. No access from the outside world. You can run that stuff until the outdated PC finally dies.
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  7. alphanumeric's Avatar
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       #106

    Cliff S said:
    But hopefully the price doesn't go up:)(so soon).
    That was my thinking, it shouldn't raise the price.
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  8. bobjoe's Avatar
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       #107

    alphanumeric said:
    Some people buy a smart phone so they can do more than just make phone calls. Or a tablet to do more than just watch YouTube videos. Why have a completely different UI just because they are different devices?
    Because they do different things.

    The idea of "one platform for all" wrecked Windows 8. Why is Microsoft repeating this same thing in Windows 10?
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  9. alphanumeric's Avatar
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       #108

    bobjoe said:
    Because they do different things.

    The idea of "one platform for all" wrecked Windows 8. Why is Microsoft repeating this same thing in Windows 10?
    Still don't get your argument? I liked Windows 8.1, wasn't wrecked as far as I can tell? Other than making phone calls, what does your phone do that your tablet doesn't? Also what does your tablet do that your laptop doesn't? Or your laptop do that your desktop PC doesn't?
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  10. Posts : 5,834
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       #109

    We had a superintendent years ago that taught us a good lesson. He questioned the crew foreman why we were performing a building task a certain way, for he instructed the foreman to have us perform it another way. "This is the way we've always did it" answered the foreman. The super shouted "If we all had that kind of attitude we'd still be building like the Romans did! My way is the quickest way to get this job done so we can move on to the next!" In the end we realized it saved a lot hours of labor, therefore to turn the job over so as to move onto the next.

    Case in point > Tasks completed in the least amount of time to be more efficient. If users want to perform tasks with the old tech of Win32 programs on the desktop that's their choice and continues to be a choice in 10 as it was with 7 and 8/8.1. The only difference is that 10 is Desktop centric once again with a new Start menu (and Tablet mode if one desires to use) rather than Start screen centric as "tablet-like" 8/8.1 is. CP still remains as part of File Explorer if one so chooses to use it. Again, nothing written in stone that itíll be eliminated.

    Those with Enterprise and Education Editions will see it is quite different from Pro in leaving out WinRT or Win32 features that can be added by IT if so desired and added features designated for Enterprise/Education. Windows continues to remain a ďflexibleĒ system in that respect. Thereís also Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise edition offered. In fact there are more editions of Windows now than ever before to target specific market and usersí needs.

    Windows 10 Enterprisebuilds on Windows 10 Pro, adding advanced features designed to meet the demands of medium and large sized organizations. It provides advanced capabilities to help protect against the ever-growing range of modern security threats targeted at devices, identities, applications and sensitive company information. Windows 10 Enterprise also supports the broadest range of options for operating system deployment and comprehensive device and app management. It will be available to our Volume Licensing customers, so they can take advantage of the latest innovation and security updates on an ongoing basis. At the same time, they will be able to choose the pace at which they adopt new technology, including the option to use the new Windows Update for Business. With Windows 10, Enterprise customers will also have access to the Long Term Servicing Branch as a deployment option for their mission critical devices and environments. And as with prior versions of Windows, Active Software Assurance customers in Volume Licensing can upgrade to Windows 10 Enterprise as part of their existing Software Assurance benefits.

    Windows 10 Education builds on Windows 10 Enterprise, and is designed to meet the needs of schools Ė staff, administrators, teachers and students. This edition will be available through academic Volume Licensing, and there will be paths for schools and students using Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro devices to upgrade to Windows 10 Education.

    Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise is designed to deliver the best customer experience to business customers on smartphones and small tablets. It will be available to our Volume Licensing customers. It offers the great productivity, security and mobile device management capabilities that Windows 10 Mobile provides, and adds flexible ways for businesses to manage updates. In addition, Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise will incorporate the latest security and innovation features as soon as they are available.

    There will also be versions of Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise for industry devices like ATMs, retail point of sale, handheld terminals and industrial robotics and Windows 10 IoT Core for small footprint, low cost devices like gateways.
    Source: Introducing Windows 10 Editions | Windows Experience Blog

    If one looks through MSís Windows 10 site one will see how they are separating Home/Pro users from Enterprise/Education users more so than before. A different ball game for both users.

    It's too bad some didnít/donít take the time using 8/8.1/10 to FULLY LEARN the WinRT system enough to know itís advantage over the old Win32 system. No, instead they come on blowing smoke thinking they know better when all indications point that they didnít take the time to learn it. They must know more than MS how to navigate and/or perform tasks efficiently.

    No real need for some to quote me. Talk to the hand so far as Iím concerned. Iím finished with persuasion-type post-to-post arguing.
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