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  1.    11 Oct 2015 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trust_No1 View Post
    In many circles he is regarded with much esteem. It's like choosing to either listen to CNN, Fox, NBC (or those BBC tabloids LOL) or others, they all have their particular spin.
    most of their rubbish could be predicted more accurately by simply GUESSING.

    According to Gartner 50% of all statistics are just guesses.
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  2.    11 Oct 2015 #12
    Join Date : Nov 2013
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    Quote Originally Posted by zooburner View Post
    There is a lot of evidence to suggest that is the truth, I think Microsoft are panicking as fewer and fewer of the market want to buy a windows product, and why should they when Apple and Android are producing vastly superior Operating Systems for these devices, I always get the feeling that Microsoft are a step behind, and with Windows 10 have lost touch completely with reality. In fact right now I'm using Linux because of privacy concerns, and using Windows to play PC games and run an Android emulator. In fact if I could I would delete all but a few windows based Apps on my PC.

    Windows will be third placed OS ecosystem by 2017 says Gartner - Software - News - HEXUS.net
    . . .WHAT. . .Panicking over what? If Apple, Android, or even Linux are so superior then why aren't they in the lead in desktop Operating System. . .this appears to be just another. . .?????
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  3.    11 Oct 2015 #13
    Join Date : Mar 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    . . .WHAT. . .Panicking over what? If Apple, Android, or even Linux are so superior then why aren't they in the lead in desktop Operating System. . .this appears to be just another. . .?????
    Microsoft clearly has a dominant position in the desktop market. However their lead in total computer devices (in you include smartphones, notepads, etc) has shrunk greatly. Even Apple has slightly increased their share in desktop device compared to Microsoft. Microsoft could have been a dominant player in the Smartphone market but due to mismanagement they were not quick enough to do that. I feel Windows 10 is a very good product and hopefully it will evolve into a great product.
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  4.    12 Oct 2015 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulGo View Post
    Microsoft could have been a dominant player in the Smartphone market but due to mismanagement they were not quick enough to do that.
    I'd really like to buy the Lumia 950XL but oh my gosh. MS is SO far behind in the land of the apps. I did a quick search in the MS store for 5 of my most important apps on Android and not one of them was available on the MS platform. Maybe it's time for MS to pony up some funds for developers until they have something built up.
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  5.    12 Oct 2015 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gork View Post
    I'd really like to buy the Lumia 950XL but oh my gosh. MS is SO far behind in the land of the apps. I did a quick search in the MS store for 5 of my most important apps on Android and not one of them was available on the MS platform. Maybe it's time for MS to pony up some funds for developers until they have something built up.
    I have one of the cheaper Lumia's and it works great I would recommend them from a reliability point of view, but I too have the same problem, most the cool Apps are on android so when this one is bust I will move to an android based device.
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  6.    12 Oct 2015 #16

    They've been saying this since The Computer Chronicles era of the 1990s (the program even mentions the slow down of computer buying) but an awful lot of people still buy and use computers.
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  7.    12 Oct 2015 #17
    Join Date : Oct 2015
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    "it is the end of the PC" or "Windows 8 killed the PC" or more recently "is it the end of the tablet" because sales are slowing down, are all good sensational statements for click bait articles, or to support personal agendas, but they conveniently avoid to use basic common sense while examining market forces.

    You use to have no choice if you wanted to do any types of computing, than to buy a PC (apple windows ....)
    Up to not so long ago, the gain in performance every year made a clear difference in how much you could accomplish with these devices to keep up with new offerings like streaming online videos.

    So during that time, the PC market sustained a certain pace.

    Then Portable computing devices appeared (smartphones and tablets) that could do more and more of the simple stuff people used to need a traditional PC for. So guess what.... A big chunk of the population now have more choices to cover their needs, beyond a traditional PC, and so that reduces the demand for these PCS.

    At the same time, even though PC performance keeps growing, the use for that performance is less and less important, at least for a large percentage of users. Combined with increased reliability, it naturally reduces the rate of renewal, and therefore also contributes to the slowdown of PC sales.

    So you can either turn the slowing down of PC sales into a sensational statement that the PC is dying, or you can simply acknowledge that the sales of these devices is just adjusting to a slower rate, reflecting the new range of devices available.

    Same goes for the somewhat ridiculous "the Tablet is dead" that we heard recently when the sale for this device slowed down.

    A few years ago there was no tablets period. Then the tablet was born and proved to be a useful device that could fill the needs of a large group of people. To go from zero to getting the target customers of the whole planet equipped takes a few years. During that time, you naturally see healthy and sustained sales. But once pretty much everyone who needs one has one, guess what happens.... Sales slow down to a lower level of mostly renewal.

    All these devices have a use, and as power progressively becomes less relevant for average use, size and form factor is what drives the user scenario. When mobility is more important you use smaller devices, when screen real estate is more important you use larger devices.

    So I don’t think any of these devices are dead or dying, their market share is just shifting based on a broader availability of device choices.

    By the way, a PC is a Personal Computer, smartphone tablets, laptops, desktops all are Personal computers. They now come in different sizes and form factors, and so far all the known form factors have a useful differentiated target usage. Several of these devices are still young and so the market has not stabilized yet, that is all
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