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  1.    29 Sep 2015 #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by mousegolf View Post
    Like religion, operating systems and software in general are "faith based". One chooses to believe or they choose not to believe. Very much the same as believing a story sincerely told to you.
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  2.    29 Sep 2015 #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    Some of those commenter's brought up some good points. They will need to rewrite the EULA before some will believe them and one commenter is a developer.

    My concern is the E.U.L.A. says they collect passwords and record sites you visit. They never said anything about that. Why would they need to record a site you visit using Firefox? Storing or uploading password that related to Microsoft Account or app purchase that ok with me.

    *Another thing that bugs me it says they may turn over data to legal authority? If they don't collect data, how would they know what data to turn over? Just for the record I am not doing anything illegal*.
    *my bold

    Not only that if they don't have a method to connect you to the data (which they suggest), then handing it over would be a meaningless exercise. You can minimise (supposedly) the data sent but what is 'basic' information or data ??

    Saying 'we do not collect or use data for the purpose of......' is not the same as saying 'we do not collect data' I'm surprised people as so easily fooled by such sleight of hand.

    I guess people will read into or out of it whatever they wish !

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  3.    29 Sep 2015 #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by zooburner View Post
    *my bold

    Not only that if they don't have a method to connect you to the data (which they suggest), then handing it over would be a meaningless exercise. You can minimise (supposedly) the data sent but what is 'basic' information or data ??

    Saying 'we do not collect or use data for the purpose of......' is not the same as saying 'we do not collect data' I'm surprised people as so easily fooled by such sleight of hand.

    I guess people will read into or out of it whatever they wish !

    zoo
    They do collect data but I just no longer care if they do or what they do with it. They claim they are not using it for advertising, I suppose Google isn't either??
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  4.    29 Sep 2015 #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    They do collect data but I just no longer care if they do or what they do with it. They claim they are not using it for advertising, I suppose Google isn't either??
    Yup I'm in pretty much the same position, assume nothing is private on windows10 that way you stay safe. I have already moved internet banking, letter writing, and on-line shopping, anywhere is use my Credit Card or need private correspondence or want to keep my passwords safe to Linux (Mint) this past month.

    I will continue to use Windows10 for less private things like You Tube, Games (for which it is great) etc.. in effect its been relegated to an entertainment system it cannot any longer in my mind at least be considered a O.S. alone.

    The whole security issues whether real or imagined which is now irrelevant to me has encouraged me to make this move Linux Mint is actually a very swish O.S. I like almost everything about it, I'm enjoying running both systems all my work is now done on Linux.

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  5.    29 Sep 2015 #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    They claim they are not using it for advertising
    Actually they quite clearly claim the ARE using it for advertising.

    Look at Windows:

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    If I have to have an advert I'd rather have an ad for something possibly interesting to me (a new SSD perhaps or a book I might like) than something not interesting to me at all (a deal on cheap diapers or cruises for the over 90's).

    There is nothing sneaky or hidden here - it is obvious and you can choose. You either accept it or not.

    If you really don't like it then you can always use something else (although it might have to be a notepad or a typewriter).
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  6.    29 Sep 2015 #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by halasz View Post
    If I have to have an advert I'd rather have an ad for something possibly interesting to me (a new SSD perhaps or a book I might like) than something not interesting to me at all (a deal on cheap diapers or cruises for the over 90's).
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  7.    29 Sep 2015 #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
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  8.    29 Sep 2015 #38
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  9.    29 Sep 2015 #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    Some of those commenter's brought up some good points. They will need to rewrite the EULA before some will believe them and one commenter is a developer.

    My concern is the E.U.L.A. says they collect passwords and record sites you visit. They never said anything about that. Why would they need to record a site you visit using Firefox? Storing or uploading password that related to Microsoft Account or app purchase that ok with me.

    Another thing that bugs me it says they may turn over data to legal authority? If they don't collect data, how would they know what data to turn over? Just for the record I am not doing anything illegal.
    IE can remember my logon credentials/passwords to sites, if I want it to. For example, when I originally logged into Ten Forums IE asked me if I wanted it to remember my password for that site. I said yes. Now I just have to type in my username and it fills in the password part. You can say no, not for this site. That info can be synced to my other PC's. I find it convenient.
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  10.    29 Sep 2015 #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by zooburner View Post
    Yup I'm in pretty much the same position, assume nothing is private on windows10 that way you stay safe. I have already moved internet banking, letter writing, and on-line shopping, anywhere is use my Credit Card or need private correspondence or want to keep my passwords safe to Linux (Mint) this past month.

    I will continue to use Windows10 for less private things like You Tube, Games (for which it is great) etc.. in effect its been relegated to an entertainment system it cannot any longer in my mind at least be considered a O.S. alone.

    The whole security issues whether real or imagined which is now irrelevant to me has encouraged me to make this move Linux Mint is actually a very swish O.S. I like almost everything about it, I'm enjoying running both systems all my work is now done on Linux.

    zoo
    Those words were taken right out of Their VP's Blogpost

    3. Advertising Data We Don’t Collect
    Unlike some other platforms, no matter what privacy options you choose, neither Windows 10 nor any other Microsoft software scans the content of your email or other communications, or your files, in order to deliver targeted advertising to you.
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