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  1.    28 Sep 2015 #61
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    Intellectual property (IP) is a term referring to creations of the intellect for which a monopoly is assigned to designated owners by law.[1] Some common types of intellectual property rights (IPR) are copyright, patents, and industrial design rights; and the rights that protect trademarks, trade dress, and in some jurisdictions trade secrets: all these cover music, literature, and other artistic works; discoveries and inventions; and words, phrases, symbols, and designs.
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    Learn more about Technology Licensing

    The Microsoft Intellectual Property Licensing group is responsible for licensing Microsoft patents and other forms of intellectual property (IP) such as research technology and know-how. If you believe your business could be enhanced by access to Microsoft IP, please contact us.
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal...g/Default.aspx
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  2.    28 Sep 2015 #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    On the gas thing.. you only get the percent of ethanol in gas.. you don't know what the other cleaning ingredients are.
    You get the Octane rating. And about the technology licensing. Try using Linux. No Distribution hides anything from the user. Most Distro's are also Free. I happen to be a Fair and Balanced Type of Guy. I get my sources from multiple locations and there are laws that, that forbid a company such as MS to become a monopoly which I believe is their end game.
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  3.    28 Sep 2015 #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    You get the Octane rating. And about the technology licensing. Try using Linux. No Distribution hides anything from the user. Most Distro's are also Free. I happen to be a Fair and Balanced Type of Guy. I get my sources from multiple locations and there are laws that, that forbid a company such as MS to become a monopoly which I believe is their end game.
    Then use Linux.
    Oh and Linux is open source and well. . Windows isn't.. see the difference?
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  4.    28 Sep 2015 #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    Then use Linux.
    Oh and Linux is open source and well. . Windows isn't.. see the difference?
    MS has stated that they might become open source. Not all Linux is Open source either. I use Avast Internet Security and other various forms of Software and when the have an upgrade or update they are not afraid to tell it's users what is in it. There is a change log.
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  5.    28 Sep 2015 #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    MS has stated that they might become open source. Not all Linux is Open source either. I use Avast Internet Security and other various forms of Software and when the have an upgrade or update they are not afraid to tell it's users what is in it. There is a change log.
    MS said might.. and they aren't now so you get the information that they want to supply. And it's up to the company to decide what they want to disclose concerning update. That's the facts.
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  6.    28 Sep 2015 #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    MS said might.. and they aren't now so you get the information that they want to supply. And it's up to the company to decide what they want to disclose concerning update. That's the facts.
    That is the way MS operates but it does not make it right. Trust me, this will in due time end up in court.
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  7.    28 Sep 2015 #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    Then use Linux.
    Oh and Linux is open source and well. . Windows isn't.. see the difference?
    Fine. Except there is a lot of software that runs only on Windows, or Mac, or both. Linux does me no good at all.
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  8.    28 Sep 2015 #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokeefe0001 View Post
    Fine. Except there is a lot of software that runs only on Windows, or Mac, or both. Linux does me no good at all.
    Ok.. then you have to play buy MS's rules.. don't ya?
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  9.    28 Sep 2015 #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    Microsoft does not own my PC, I do. I have a right to know what is included in these updates. If you go to a store and purchase a food item, every ingredient in that food is listed in detail on the package required by the Federal Government. If you put gas in your car, what is in it is detailed on the pump. Why should MS be any different. As consumers we have the right to know.
    Except "right" is a legal term, no legal body that I'm aware of has granted us an unalienable right to know the contents of Microsoft fixes. Maybe there is a moral or ethical obligation to provide us with such information, but what does Microsoft (or most other large corporations) care about morals and ethics?

    But what good does this information do us if we can't do anything with it? I think it's a bigger problem than just not having that information. Microsoft no longer gives us any control over what maintenance we apply. (Ok. Some control over "when". No control over "what".) And we have no more "right" to demand that control than we have to demand the information.
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  10.    28 Sep 2015 #70

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    Ok.. then you have to play buy MS's rules.. don't ya?
    I think it is 'by' not 'buy'. However, it is MS so you are probably correct.

    None the less, this whole debate is mute. If you one doesn't like the new MS rules, they shouldn't use Windows 10.

    However, I do start having issues when MS starts installing software I don't want on my Windows 7 or 8 machines. Skype being one of them and GTX being the other. They even nag you to death if you use some of their apps on a Windows 8 machine, trying to get you to upgrade to Windows 8.1. I have 2 machines with Windows 8 and one the WiFi won't work properly using Windows 8.1 (so switched back) and the other it simply won't install. So, i don't think I (or others) should be nagged to death for retaining the old versions.

    As I said before, Microsoft has lost it's morale compass. IMHO
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