Windows 10: Everyone Wants Windows 10 Update Info, Microsoft Says No

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  1.    17 Sep 2015 #21

    This is how you become a d*ck when you have a monopoly. But they could done this earlier...
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  2. Posts : 328
    Win10 x64 Pro -2 desktops, 1 laptop
       17 Sep 2015 #22

    I can't picture corporate users of Windows accepting this update model. I read somewhere that maintenance for Win10 Enterprise is handled differently, but I haven't seen any details. A ComputerWorld article (Microsoft to deliver Windows 10s business update service in stages | Computerworld) mentions a 4 month delay in receiving fixes (other than security, I'm sure) in order to give "testers" (e.g., customers) a chance to find bugs. That certainly isn't as good being able to exclude maint that is known to be buggy, but it helps. However, there must be more in the works to handle enterprise customers in the works or Microsoft is going to lose a lot of business. And if it's available for corporate users, it should be available for home users.

    Actually, I predict it will eventually be available ... for those willing to pay for it.
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  3.    17 Sep 2015 #23

    Indianatone said: View Post
    The problem with Microsoft is they no longer have any respect for their customers. Microsoft is now under the impression that it is THEIR computer to do as they see fit. They don't have to explain anything to anyone.
    Microsoft has become so arrogant that this former fan has decided enough is enough. Back porting the spyware back to 8.1 8 and 7 seriously means you are only safe from their data hovering on VISTA or Linux.
    For me the long term is a transition to Linux and using a Windows 7 virtual machine after 7 end of life. I am not prepared to use Windows (what is broken this boot?) 10 Pro Spyware edition. I thought Balmer was an azzhole but Satya Nadella with his everything mobile in the cloud is worse. Everyone should leave feedback for Microsoft to stop the tracking and data hoovering and be transparent with exactly what is going on with these patches. I am only letting 10 lose in a virtual machine for now. Windows 10 is an even bigger disappointment than 8 and that really took some doing. Only Microsoft could do that.
    The most important Word is R-E-S-P-E-C-T. And it seems Microsoft don't have respect to their customers. My PC should be my PC. Never THEIR PC. A few days a go I put in there a thread from this theme and much of the people smile with. Not all the people is happy with the updates politics of Microsoft. Less information, less love. So are the things
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  4.    17 Sep 2015 #24

    Another iteration of Windows and another revolution, some things never change, and more people going to Linux. At this rate in another 30 years Linux will have 3% of the market.
    All I need to know about updates is wether they're security or whatever and even then it's only a mild interest.
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  5.    17 Sep 2015 #25

    BillyBob said: View Post
    Another iteration of Windows and another revolution, some things never change, and more people going to Linux. At this rate in another 30 years Linux will have 3% of the market.
    All I need to know about updates is wether they're security or whatever and even then it's only a mild interest.
    Considering Microsoft's track record for bad updates over the last 6-12 months, Good Luck

    With the W-10 forced updates protocol it's not a matter of IF a bad update disrupts a lot of PC's it's a matter of When and it will happen.
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  6.    17 Sep 2015 #26

    gator2013 said: View Post
    Considering Microsoft's track record for bad updates over the last 6-12 months, Good Luck

    With the W-10 forced updates protocol it's not a matter of IF a bad update disrupts a lot of PC's it's a matter of When and it will happen.
    Since Windows 3.1 I can't remember too many bad updates except on Previews etc, and I've had many, many, many computers. Nobody has had my credit card details and no men in black have come knocking on my door, maybe I am just lucky.
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  7. Posts : 558
    Windows 10
       18 Sep 2015 #27

    shunsai said: View Post
    Wow, I couldn't agree more with you two! I know there are a lot of people who seem to take personal offense at the notion that some of us don't agree that 10 is the long-awaited Savior of the Microsoft faithful. I really hoped to like 10, especially given my distaste for 8. I never would've imagined anything could make me actually like 8. But somehow, Microsoft managed to pull it off. It's a miracle!

    If you're not concerned about the amount of control Microsoft is taking away from its users, fine, that's your prerogative. But why do people feel it's their personal mission to convince those of us that are concerned that we are whiny or ignorant or paranoid?

    Squeaky wheels and grease and all that...

    I hoped to like it also but in reality i am disliking it more every day , as to your last comment , agreed , there is a BIG problem with the downplaying of others who happen to think differently then they do .
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  8.    18 Sep 2015 #28

    altae said: View Post
    If you don't want those infos that's fine. But I definitely would like to know what's going on with MY PC. As much as I like Windows, the recent activities by MS made me question my loyalty to the MS operating system. First the "free" update that converts a expensive retail license into a cheap hardware bound one, then the spying features like handwriting and typing logs, they refuse to tell the users what changes come with updates, they took out a lot of useful features of Windows (selective updates, almost no possibility to customize the os)... What's more the os is much less stable than Windows 8.1. During the last 2 months with Windows 10 my pc has crashed/ frozen more often than it did during the entire period I was using Windows 8 and 8.1.

    At the moment I am still sticking to Windows 10 as my main operating system. But I must admit that my patience is running out. If MS does not fix all the issues of Windows 10 soon I will switch to Linux as my main operating system and keep Windows 8.1 or 7 as a backup to play games and run software for which I cannot find a useful replacement under Linux.
    . . .OMG. . .the sky is falling. . .
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  9.    18 Sep 2015 #29

    TairikuOkami said: View Post
    Providing info about updates is costly, MS is not going to employe more people, especially during crisis, just to say, that they have fixed typos, minor issues, which count in thousands.
    . . .Makes perfect sense. . .
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  10.    18 Sep 2015 #30

    altae said: View Post
    The problem is MS cannot decide if a change is drastic or not. Windows runs on so many different systems with countless hardware and software configurations, there is no way MS can possibly say how a specific update will work on my system. The only person who can decide that is me. But how should I decide that if the only info I'll ever get is some nonsense like "bug fixes" or "performance improvement". Maybe most users would not be capable of interpreting such infos, even if MS provided them. But I am and so many others out there are too.

    Under Linux you know exactly what packages are updated. And Linux distribution developers haven't got the financial ressources MS has. What's more under Linux you can alsway refuse to install certain updates. Only MS claims that such information would be too expensive to provide. Come on, you don't seriously believe this? MS swims in money, they generate so much money, they don't even know what to do with it exept buying one more competitor or paying out enormous sums to their shareholders. It's a very bold lie if MS claims they cannot afford to provide infos concerning updates.
    Hmmmmmmmmmm!. . .then go with Linux, and then you won't have to worry about what it is that Microsoft is doing to your computer. . .
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