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  1. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 429
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit; Windows 10 TP
       16 Sep 2015 #11

    Hello

    I'd like to clarify that I have already upgraded to Windows 10 on two (2) different motherboards, an ASUS and an ASRock. I first upgraded my Win 7 Home Premium to Win 10 Home, and then my Win 8.1 Pro to Windows 10 Pro, which I am currently using as my main OS on the slow ring, and I prefer Pro due to the Group Policy Editor.

    My wish for a new official ISO from Microsoft is due to the fact that it will contain the latest updates - hotfixes, IF I have understood correctly. So, it is not the same as performing a clean install with the already existing means. I hope I got it right.

    Thank you
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  2.    16 Sep 2015 #12

    Joanne said: View Post
    Hello

    I'd like to clarify that I have already upgraded to Windows 10 on two (2) different motherboards, an ASUS and an ASRock. I first upgraded my Win 7 Home Premium to Win 10 Home, and then my Win 8.1 Pro to Windows 10 Pro, which I am currently using as my main OS on the slow ring, and I prefer Pro due to the Group Policy Editor.

    My wish for a new official ISO from Microsoft is due to the fact that it will contain the latest updates - hotfixes, IF I have understood correctly. So, it is not the same as performing a clean install with the already existing means. I hope I got it right.

    Thank you
    Microsoft does not make such "up-to-date" .iso files or physical media available. They never have.

    If you want up-to-date media the last thing you would do is get it from Microsoft because the .iso files posted online are only the latest milestone builds. The July 29th release is such a milestone build. Microsoft does not update these dynamically as new updates are released on Windows Update. Nor does Microsoft provide the public with media with "rollups." Rollups are provided to OEMs so that the computers they manufacture are reasonably up-to-date and customers aren't immediately greeted by an hour of updates the very first time they turn the computer on.

    So no matter what .iso file you download there will be updates on WU to apply that have been released since the milestone.

    Microsoft is not manufacturing and stocking dvds for mailing to customers or for sale in the Store or retail outlets anymore.
    Last edited by Cbarnhorst; 16 Sep 2015 at 10:03.
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  3. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,246
    Windows 10 IoT
       16 Sep 2015 #13

    Joanne said: View Post
    Hello

    I'd like to clarify that I have already upgraded to Windows 10 on two (2) different motherboards, an ASUS and an ASRock. I first upgraded my Win 7 Home Premium to Win 10 Home, and then my Win 8.1 Pro to Windows 10 Pro, which I am currently using as my main OS on the slow ring, and I prefer Pro due to the Group Policy Editor.

    My wish for a new official ISO from Microsoft is due to the fact that it will contain the latest updates - hotfixes, IF I have understood correctly. So, it is not the same as performing a clean install with the already existing means. I hope I got it right.

    Thank you
    Ok, if you've upgraded and activated, a clean install should not be an issue. Just make sure to install the same version you got with the free upgrade. When prompted for a key, click skip. It should activate with no issues. I've done it myself. 10240 is the current build offered via the Media Creation Tool. It's the current consumer build. To get anything newer you have to accept insider builds. That's just the way it is. You won't get any newer ISO's until a big update is released or the consumer version is upgraded to a new build. As far as I know anyway.
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  4. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,246
    Windows 10 IoT
       16 Sep 2015 #14

    Cbarnhorst said: View Post
    Microsoft does not make such "up-to-date" .iso files or physical media available. They never have.

    If you want up-to-date media the last thing you would do is get it from Microsoft because the .iso files posted online are only the latest milestone builds. The July 29th release is such a milestone build. Microsoft does not update these dynamically as new updates are released on Windows Update. Nor does Microsoft provide the public with media with "rollups." Rollups are provided to OEMs so that the computers they manufacture are reasonably up-to-date and customers aren't immediately greeted by an hour of updates the very first time they turn the computer on.

    So no matter what .iso file you download there will be updates on WU to apply that have been released since the milestone.

    Microsoft is not manufacturing and stocking dvds for mailing to customers or for sale in the Store or retail outlets anymore. I suspect that the usb drives that can be purchased with a new copy of Windows 10 through the Microsoft Store are made on demand.
    I'm pretty sure you can buy Windows 10 DVD's as well as Windows 10 thumb drives at Newegg etc?
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  5.    16 Sep 2015 #15

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    I'm pretty sure you can buy Windows 10 DVD's as well as Windows 10 thumb drives at Newegg etc?
    Not separately from the purchase of a copy of Windows. In any case, that is not what Joanne wants. She wants up-to-date media, meaning updated since release.
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  6. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,246
    Windows 10 IoT
       16 Sep 2015 #16

    Cbarnhorst said: View Post
    Not separately from the purchase of a copy of Windows. In any case, that is not what Joanne wants. She wants up-to-date media, meaning updated since release.
    Ah, OK, I got you know. I misunderstood what you meant. Yeah, you can't just buy an install DVD without buying a license to go with it. Even if you could, it wouldn't be long before it got outdated anyway.
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  7.    16 Sep 2015 #17

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Ah, OK, I got you know. I misunderstood what you meant. Yeah, you can't just buy an install DVD without buying a license to go with it. Even if you could, it wouldn't be long before it got outdated anyway.
    Right-O. Maybe if somebody invented a dvd with a usb port.....
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  8. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,246
    Windows 10 IoT
       16 Sep 2015 #18

    Just to add to my above post. That's what I like about making my own install thumb drives. I just redo them when a new ISO shows up on MSDN. Plus, I can add my own customizations to them and tailor them to a specific PC. The Microsoft ones are read only from what I'm reading. That's good in one sense, you can't accidentally erase them or infect them. Still, I'd like to be able to update them etc.
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  9. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,246
    Windows 10 IoT
       16 Sep 2015 #19

    Cbarnhorst said: View Post
    Right-O. Maybe if somebody invented a dvd with a usb port.....
    It's called a thumb drive. Kidding aside, thumb drives are the way to go IMHO. Installs are a lot faster that when using optical media.
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  10. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 68
    Windows 10
       17 Sep 2015 #20

    Cbarnhorst said: View Post
    Microsoft does not make such "up-to-date" .iso files or physical media available. They never have.

    If you want up-to-date media the last thing you would do is get it from Microsoft because the .iso files posted online are only the latest milestone builds. The July 29th release is such a milestone build. Microsoft does not update these dynamically as new updates are released on Windows Update. Nor does Microsoft provide the public with media with "rollups." Rollups are provided to OEMs so that the computers they manufacture are reasonably up-to-date and customers aren't immediately greeted by an hour of updates the very first time they turn the computer on.

    So no matter what .iso file you download there will be updates on WU to apply that have been released since the milestone.

    Microsoft is not manufacturing and stocking dvds for mailing to customers or for sale in the Store or retail outlets anymore.
    Not true, if you are on Windows 8.1 and reinstall Windows 8.1 using the media creation tool for Windows 8.1 it will be more updated than just 8.1 with update. They seem to be updating that every quarter or so from what I have seen. My thoughts is that when we get more stable builds of Windows 10 the new builds will be available for everyone to download just as the 10240 build has been.
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