Windows 10: Microsoft pushes Windows 10 upgrade to PCs without user consent

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  1. Posts : 3,357
    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
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       15 Oct 2015 #311

    The actual 10 update I still have to identify as far as number since the other that was hidden did return but was only for the Get 10 app not the actual download itself that works as the installer. 7 is set to the "Let me choose when to download and install" setting and still saw the failed actually 3rd failed since on the first day when direct download to install over the temp install kept failing I tried running it over the still present original 7 install now needing to see a clean install itself from wear and tear since June 2013.

    Upon just looking again after hiding the KB3035583 the second time I went into the Restore hidden updates and found two listings for the exact same update present showing you have to expect multiple occurences until the MS Play Catch Up takes effect?!
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  2. Posts : 1,546
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       15 Oct 2015 #312

    Update

    link credit goes to jadinolf

    Microsoft stops automatic Windows 10 upgrades
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    W10Prox64
       15 Oct 2015 #313

    Just had a third W8.1 rig with the "optional" W10 upgrade selected by default....
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  4. Posts : 1,467
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       15 Oct 2015 #314

    MS' Fault


    altae said: View Post
    Sorry but It has been a very long time since last heard such an idiotic advice. Not updating your Windows pc is in fact suicide. Nowadays new security holes are popping up on a daily basis and the pcs you mention have probably been captured by a bot net without the owners knowing it. You got the whole thing upside down. Experts who know what they are doing might (still not a good idea) disable Windows updates. But so called "basic users" should never even touch Windows update. They don't have the knowledge to judge whether they need a certain update or not. There are other ways of stopping Windows 7 or 8 from updating. But don't disable the Windows update service. Not only are you puttting yourself at risk, by running a probably malware infected pc you are also a threat to any not infected pc out there.
    So your solution is that people should "upgrade" their machines to W10?
    Are you a MS shill?

    Blame MS, not the helpless ordinary users.

    Most users don't know how to configure their router firewall.
    It seems like it is the only way to defeat MS' attempt to foist malware and security/privacy "holes" risks is to disable the update service entirely.

    MS knows exactly what it is doing.
    Annoy people long enough and they'll just accept W10 to get rid of the malware popup.

    I though that it was a crime (in the US) to tamper with someone's computer system.

    Emma said: View Post
    Someone said something about blocking updates until W 10 upgrade is no longer free. That sounds like a very good idea.
    Except MS will probably still update your PC to W10 and then lock it because you haven't paid them.
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  5. Posts : 526
    W 7 desktop Home Premium 64 - OS
       15 Oct 2015 #315

    lehnerus, what do you mean? They have already tried to upgrade it, but didn't/couldn't enable updates so how will they be able to update it? Make me pay for what.......They can't make me pay for anything I didn't order or buy, they can only cut off my service like a utility company can. MS and I can go round and around with this as long as I can reformat my PC. I can also try Ultimate Tweaker, it has an option to remove all windows update software.

    If they do what you say to a lot of people, MS will be in serious trouble. Why would they risk that? A lot of people no longer trust MS. My neighbor told me today if they mess with his computer he will buy a Mac.

    Before I will let anyone push me around like that I will just unplug the thing.
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    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       16 Oct 2015 #316

    Emma said: View Post
    lehnerus, what do you mean? They have already tried to upgrade it, but didn't/couldn't enable updates so how will they be able to update it? Make me pay for what.......They can't make me pay for anything I didn't order or buy, they can only cut off my service like a utility company can. MS and I can go round and around with this as long as I can reformat my PC. I can also try Ultimate Tweaker, it has an option to remove all windows update software.

    If they do what you say to a lot of people, MS will be in serious trouble. Why would they risk that? A lot of people no longer trust MS. My neighbor told me today if they mess with his computer he will buy a Mac.

    Before I will let anyone push me around like that I will just unplug the thing.
    Chances are that could only happen to pirated versions of W7 (and the W8 series, assuming there are pirated versions).
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    W 7 desktop Home Premium 64 - OS
       16 Oct 2015 #317

    Well then it won't happen to me.
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  8.    16 Oct 2015 #318

    Mistake my a**!

    "While this sounds an innocent explanation, InfoWorld’s Woody Leonhard has an in-depth report which claims Microsoft’s argument doesn’t add up. He claims to have a screenshot from October 9th where the tickbox beside the ‘Upgrade to Windows 10’ was already ticked."

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...s-7-windows-8/
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    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit and VM
       16 Oct 2015 #319

    I had the forced update to Windows 10 on my 4 main Windows 7 PC's. I thought I had it set to not update to 10 with a registry setting and the required updates removed but this Tuesday that all changed as the only update offered was to "upgrade" to windows 10. I could shut down and install updates but who know if that included the 10 BS. I was furious and it took me until 2 AM Wed AM to remove the crap as it kept coming back. Here is the view on this over at The Register.
    Microsoft now awfully pushy with Windows 10 on Win 7, 8 PCs – Reg readers hit back

    Torch and pitchfork time after Redmond force-feeds update

    Have you noticed Microsoft being a little too eager in pushing its Windows 10 upgrade lately?
    You're not alone.
    Microsoft now awfully pushy with Windows 10 on Win 7, 8 PCs – Reg readers hit back • The Register
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  10.    16 Oct 2015 #320

    I hate being lied to by corporations, their representatives and especially their executives. Below is a quote from the article linked above by groze:

    "We reached out to Microsoft asking why users were being forced to install Windows 10, and the company replied that the issue came down to an optional update in Windows Update being checked by default. The company has now reverted the checkbox, calling the whole snafu “a mistake.”


    Mistake my arse! Lying sacks of monkey dung! The only "MISTAKE" ​was in thinking they could get away with this crap, without anyone complaining about it!
    Just Sayin'
    Gene
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