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  1. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,212
    Windows 10 IoT
       13 Sep 2015 #61

    Winuser said: View Post
    I can't see people buying a new computer every time they want a Windows update. I know I won't. IMO I see Microsoft keeping updates (security and bug fixes) free and in the future charging for upgrades (new features) for Windows.
    IMHO, I don't think that will happen. What I can see happening is Windows outgrowing your current device. Upgrades to the OS will be offered but your device won't have the hardware to support them. To get them you'll have to buy a new device. Saying device is easier than saying laptop, tablet, desktop, phone, IoT etc.
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  2.    13 Sep 2015 #62

    Dch48 said: View Post
    That may happen with future purchases. I was talking about this first wave of upgraders. We will never have to pay a subscription as long as we still use the same machines.
    Microsoft has apparently really expanded support. Support for the Get Windows 10 upgrades isn't distinguishing between OEM upgraders and retail upgraders with regards to the qualifying licenses. It doesn't matter that an upgrader is qualifying with an OEM copy of Windows 7 or 8. This is a bit new. In the past an OEM license had to be supported by the OEM and Microsoft support would tell a user to contact the OEM.

    Maybe there is a change coming in a few years in how support for OEM copies are handled. Just a wild, speculative scenario (so don't reply with the usual "It'll never happen), but suppose OEM machines ship with a trial copy of Windows and the user chooses whether to add the computer to his Windows 365 account (for free), subscribe to Window 365 and add other devices, or purchase a single Windows license (maybe even at the OEM's website with the OEM getting a commision out of it). That is a scenario with lots of new possibilities.

    I'm just trying to get the creative thinking going on the Windows 365 concept.
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  3. Joined : Aug 2015
    Upstate NY, USA
    Posts : 192
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit
       13 Sep 2015 #63

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    IMHO, I don't think that will happen. What I can see happening is Windows outgrowing your current device. Upgrades to the OS will be offered but your device won't have the hardware to support them. To get them you'll have to buy a new device. Saying device is easier than saying laptop, tablet, desktop, phone, IoT etc.
    That was exactly what I meant.
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  4.    13 Sep 2015 #64

    Win 10's appeal is that it seems to work well even on older hardware from the start , if people think MS will soon release upgrades that will be too much for their current machines it's going to be a huge mistake .

    Someone mentioned that depending on how many switch to Win 10, that may determine how long Win 7 will be supported due to saving money by not offering support , i hope not .

    If they skip out on the 2020 extended security support date for Win 7 it's going to get really ugly lol.
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  5.    13 Sep 2015 #65

    fredc said: View Post
    Win 10's appeal is that it seems to work well even on older hardware from the start , if people think MS will soon release upgrades that will be too much for their current machines it's going to be a huge mistake .

    Someone mentioned that depending on how many switch to Win 10, that may determine how long Win 7 will be supported due to saving money by not offering support , i hope not .

    If they skip out on the 2020 Win 7 security support date that was previously listed it's going to get really ugly lol.
    Microsoft won't alter the lifecycle parameters for Windows 7 or 8, and the lifecycle listed for 10 is the same, in spite of "support for the life of the device." But I think they may assume responsibility for support for OEM copies if they continue to be a bit unhappy about the current quality of support from some of the OEMs. The one thing Microsoft has been big about is the support network for Windows and other products. If they do, the money to pay for support will have to come from someplace and that is what bears watching.
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  6. Joined : Mar 2014
    Cape Breton Nova Scotia ,Canada
    Posts : 2,917
    insider build 10586.3 win10 pro 64
       13 Sep 2015 #66

    Cbarnhorst said: View Post
    Remember, your worst day at work will still be better than your best day with your teenager.
    and those days will get better when they are grown and gone ,, just ask my Dad,,i officially moved out when I was 32 ,lol
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  7. Joined : Mar 2014
    Cape Breton Nova Scotia ,Canada
    Posts : 2,917
    insider build 10586.3 win10 pro 64
       13 Sep 2015 #67

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    IMHO, I don't think that will happen. What I can see happening is Windows outgrowing your current device. Upgrades to the OS will be offered but your device won't have the hardware to support them. To get them you'll have to buy a new device. Saying device is easier than saying laptop, tablet, desktop, phone, IoT etc.
    and that's what Apple does, Microsoft is copying them, it works for Apple why not Microsoft
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  8.    13 Sep 2015 #68

    caperjack said: View Post
    and those days will get better when they are grown and gone ,, just ask my Dad,,i officially moved out when I was 32 ,lol
    Mine were ready to move out when I was 32.
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  9.    13 Sep 2015 #69

    Cbarnhorst said: View Post
    Microsoft won't alter the lifecycle parameters for Windows 7 or 8, and the lifecycle listed for 10 is the same, in spite of "support for the life of the device." But I think they may assume responsibility for support for OEM copies if they continue to be a bit unhappy about the current quality of support from some of the OEMs. The one thing Microsoft has been big about is the support network for Windows and other products. If they do, the money to pay for support will have to come from someplace and that is what bears watching.

    Appreciate your viewpoint , thanks.
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  10. Joined : Mar 2014
    Cape Breton Nova Scotia ,Canada
    Posts : 2,917
    insider build 10586.3 win10 pro 64
       13 Sep 2015 #70

    Cbarnhorst said: View Post
    Mine were ready to move out when I was 32.
    lol
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