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  1.    27 Aug 2015 #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antilope View Post
    One interesting thing regarding 75-million devices running Windows 10. When someone does an operating system upgrade rather than buying a new computer, that's 75-million new devices that were not sold. That's got to have an impact on hardware sales for Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus, etc. So what's good for Microsoft may not be good for those selling new hardware.

    If your old hardware can run a new operating system and run it well, why buy a new system?
    low sales means good deals around the Holidays. That's good for the economy
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  2.    27 Aug 2015 #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antilope View Post
    One interesting thing regarding 75-million devices running Windows 10. When someone does an operating system upgrade rather than buying a new computer, that's 75-million new devices that were not sold. That's got to have an impact on hardware sales for Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus, etc. So what's good for Microsoft may not be good for those selling new hardware.

    If your old hardware can run a new operating system and run it well, why buy a new system?
    While I see your point, I don't think it is the kind of thing that matters. A lot of people, maybe most, buy a new device for reasons unrelated to operating systems and such. Lifestyle reasons. The user base has long morphed from what it was like when XP rolled out. Us computer enthusiasts are a drop in the ocean now. Windows 10 is out but its fate is in the hands of the device manufacturers, one increasingly important one being Microsoft itself. The new device activation technology is a clear sign to me of just how much Microsoft wants to change the conversation.
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  3.    27 Aug 2015 #43
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    MS says that the 75 mil represents the number of actual activations. While some might use a new OS as a justification for buying a new computer, IMO relatively few would actually buy one for that reason.
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  4.    27 Aug 2015 #44
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    Windows 10 installs alone (75-million currently), is getting close to the installed base of of Apple Macs (80 million).

    "as reported at the WWDC 2014, Apple’s installed base of Macs has grown to 80 million users"

    Mac Installed Base : AAPLinvestors

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    Windows 10 installs (75-million currently), are nearly double the Ubuntu installed base (40-million).

    "Because of a lack of registration, any number provided for Ubuntu usage can only be estimated. In 2015, Canonical's Ubuntu Insights page stated "Ubuntu now has over 40 million desktop users and counting" - Wikipedia

    Ubuntu (operating system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  5.    27 Aug 2015 #45
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    +1. In my opinion, new PCs are bought because of different reasons (hardware failure, new games you "must" play...) but a new OS would be a minor one, if at all. Besides, the gamers and other enthusiasts would upgrade several components rather than buy a complete new PC. I know I have the same PC for 10+ years, but of course no component is the same as the original:-)

    Quote Originally Posted by KACI View Post
    MS says that the 75 mil represents the number of actual activations. While some might use a new OS as a justification for buying a new computer, IMO relatively few would actually buy one for that reason.
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  6.    28 Aug 2015 #46
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    I upgrade HW , for hardware's sake, to get wanted and needed performance and upgrade OS to take advantage of new HW.
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  7.    28 Aug 2015 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredc View Post
    Some make it sound like it's already been proven that Win 10 is the ultimate OS to date based on free giveaways , most people are sampling the goods now and have not made a decision whether to go with it or not.
    Any data to back that up?

    If we're both talking anecdotally here, my guess is that people will just install it and use it, and not make any decision "whether to go with it or not".

    Taking out a certain number of people who have problems with the upgrade and roll back, I don't see a large number of people actually making any decision to "go with it or not".

    And I'm one who - though I certainly like W10 in my own personal experience - doesn't consider 75 million mostly free installs to be any proof of it being "the ultimate OS". It's just a big number driven by a free upgrade.
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  8.    28 Aug 2015 #48
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    32-bit Windows 10 Pro - Build 1607/14393.51

    As for me, I LOVE the W10 upgrade.

    I've done two installs (this very laptop and one in our family) and the performance increase alone is amazing to me. I am on a 2GB Dell laptop right now, and the upgrade means I am no longer considering a memory upgrade like I was with W7. This feels like a new computer after the upgrade.

    I realize I'm just one of 75 million, but if I were one of 75, I'd feel the same way.
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  9.    28 Aug 2015 #49
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    W10 pro x86 and W10 x86

    First graph on here is up to date,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_...rating_systems
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  10.    28 Aug 2015 #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inundated View Post
    Any data to back that up?
    Installed Windows 10 base after 1 month - 75-million.

    Installed Apple Mac base - 80-million - total.
    Mac Installed Base : AAPLinvestors

    Installed Ubuntu base - about 40-million - total.
    Ubuntu (operating system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Windows 8 sold 60-million licenses in the first 3 months.
    Windows 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Windows 7 sold 100-million copies in the first 6 months.
    Windows 7 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Windows Vista sold 20-million copies in the first month.
    Eugene Register-Guard - Google News Archive Search

    Windows XP sold 32-million copies after 7 months of sales.
    The Victoria Advocate - Google News Archive Search
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