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  1.    24 Oct 2015 #21
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    first of, hi every1
    so where I work they'll be installing win7 and opf course they leave it to the intern to take care of this. I'll admit I'm new even to this old OS since at home I only use XP

    so, not that I wanna be a party pooper or anything - but how the hell is this "gift" from MS of any use? I mean, all these hundreds of downloads can be downloaded by windows update itself right? (windows update automatically recognizes missing updates & downloads & installs them)
    now ok we can download them manually & have them all ready in 1 folder, but as someone pointed out, they still have to be installed manually, one after the other, all hundred of them, with of course the necessary reboot between each update (since the programmers at MS still can't make updates that don't require reboots) so once again how does this simplify anything? it's not like they packed all these updates in one neat mega-update/service pack (also win7 is apparently so flawed in design that new bugs keep popping up even 5 years after that OS made its debut)

    we already know that streaming is virtually impossible with win7
    so the updating for those with only a win7 SP1 disc dating 4 years back will still be an impossibly long task...so once again, how is all this of any help?
    or am I missing something??
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  2.    24 Oct 2015 #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by pulveri7or View Post
    first of, hi every1
    so where I work they'll be installing win7 and opf course they leave it to the intern to take care of this. I'll admit I'm new even to this old OS since at home I only use XP

    so, not that I wanna be a party pooper or anything - but how the hell is this "gift" from MS of any use? I mean, all these hundreds of downloads can be downloaded by windows update itself right? (windows update automatically recognizes missing updates & downloads & installs them)
    now ok we can download them manually & have them all ready in 1 folder, but as someone pointed out, they still have to be installed manually, one after the other, all hundred of them, with of course the necessary reboot between each update (since the programmers at MS still can't make updates that don't require reboots) so once again how does this simplify anything? it's not like they packed all these updates in one neat mega-update/service pack (also win7 is apparently so flawed in design that new bugs keep popping up even 5 years after that OS made its debut)

    we already know that streaming is virtually impossible with win7
    so the updating for those with only a win7 SP1 disc dating 4 years back will still be an impossibly long task...so once again, how is all this of any help?
    or am I missing something??
    I did an Upgrade from WinXP to Win7 the other day, updated it from the 'net [28 updates] then installed SP1 from the CD/DVD and followed that with about 220 updates to do from the 'net, did take awhile. Then the computer decided to start blue-screening. Since I was trying to resurrect it I chose to just junk it anyway, something was wrong with the memory controller on the motherboard.

    The part about having to reboot is because things are held in RAM and the rebooting clears the RAM releasing those things and that lets the necessary updates copy files to the proper place. Win7 actually does it better than having to reboot after EVERYTHING back in WinMe/Win2000 and earlier days but there still some reboots needed.
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  3.    24 Oct 2015 #23
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    Update the install media with SP1 and all updates first. Then the install takes a very short time.

    Ntlite is supposed to work on 7, 8, 8.1 and 10.

    It's like nLite for Win 2K and XP and Vlite for Vista.
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  4.    25 Oct 2015 #24
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    Thanks. . .
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  5.    25 Oct 2015 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
    Ntlite is supposed to work on 7, 8, 8.1 and 10.

    It's like nLite for Win 2K and XP and Vlite for Vista.
    k thx but it says it's in Beta so it will probably screw up the install

    (besides what exactly does NTlite do?????? they're not clear about it - will it avoid having to install all the .msu files one by one?)

    btw I'm told that the disc already has SP1 on it so that means I don't have to install all updates, but then which ones?? anything after 2011? how to choose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Berton View Post
    The part about having to reboot is because things are held in RAM and the rebooting clears the RAM releasing those things and that lets the necessary updates copy files to the proper place.
    so in other words Microsoft "programmers" do it like that just for the sake of complicating things? (why can't it just clear RAM before rebooting to avoid the whole hassle?)
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