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Windows 11 available on October 5
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New #701
I agree. I skipped Me, Vista, and 8.
I have four computers with Windows 10 and two with Windows 7. Only one of them is compatible with Windows 11. I tried Windows 11 on that computer for 10 days before I went back to Windows 10.
I can deal with computers with a mix of Windows 7 and Windows 10 with no problem. If one had Windows 11 that would be big challenge.
I plan to build a new computer in 2022 or 2023. I will deal with Window 11 then.
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New #702
Sigh - not that tedious old bs chestnut which conveniently ignores NT, ME, 2000 etc. again.
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New #704
NT was part of the professional line, that lead to Windows 2000. Microsoft decided to bring their OS line up to date at an architecture level, and dump the outdated 9x line, so Windows 2000 was rebadged as Windows XP after a change to the awful Luna Interface, ( luckily you could remove the disney look easily), and other bad addons, that made XP such a dog to use.
Windows Vista was the first of the completely new line, but was badly marketed and sold on under specified XP hardware by the third party sellers trying to make money at the expense of users
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New #705
Nonetheless ignoring ME breaks the good bad order that people are so fond of. I may be unusual but imo W8.1 was far superior to W7, once you added a start menu.
Vista was fine after a year or so as hardware caught up. Hell, W7 was rather rough until the service packs were applied.
As far as I am concerned Windows has significantly improved every time a new version as new useful features were added every time.
W11 is the first build where I would debate that but as we all know W11 is basically W10 with a new GUI.
In time, it will probably be better, but not until MS stop their obsession with emoticons, improve the start menu, reinstate features removed, and add some USEFUL new features.
I see a glimmer of hope in Dev version with boot persistent sandbox.
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New #706
Not that I'm in a great hurry. My [almost] gaming laptop from Lenovo still hasn't received the official Windows 11 updated notification.
Is this normal behavior or should I manually install Windows 11 Pro?
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I don't beliieve this will ever happen. Apple is in fact obsessed with emoticions and they are shaping people's opinions. Each IOS update for their iphone typically has a big increase in the number of [new] emojis. It's quite pathetic IMO. Smartpone, TikTok, and Facebook users swallow this up like it's Kool-aid.
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New #707
Completely normal behavior. Windows update has proven, historically, to be the least reliable method of upgrading to major revisions of an OS or to new upgrades such as Windows 7 to 10 or Windows 10 to 11. Some people claim that Microsoft will withhold upgrades via Windows Update due to known issues with the newer OS when applied to the specific computer system that is not offered the upgrade. Also, Microsoft offers upgrades incrementally - they won't offer the upgrade to all eligible computers at the same time to avoid overwhelming their servers - this means that your computer may have no issues at all with the upgrade, but you may be in the last tier of those offered the upgrade and won't see it offered for many months.
The decision is yours. I have always downloaded the upgrade (via the Media Creation Tool or other ISO file method) and upgraded manually. That way I am in complete control of when my computer is upgraded. Others will post on here months after the upgrade is available wondering why they haven't been offered the upgrade - and the simple answer is that Microsoft has decided not to offer it to you - or there is something wrong in your own system which is preventing Windows Update from operating properly.
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New #708
Thank you for your insights!
When you write "upgrade" do you mean a fresh install or just upgrade using the .iso file without a clean fresh install? In my case, I know I am eligble for an upgrade. It's a new laptop and the specs are decent. I also passed Microsoft's W11 "test".
Normallay, when I had my own custom "built" PC, I always did a fresh install of an OS. However, I had some negative experiences last year when I did a fresh reinsall of Windows 7 on a 13 year old PC. It left me quite frustrated despite having done this about a dozen times previously since 2009 with Win 7. I never had issues before which I shall not get into here. But I have posted in the W7 forums.
Now, since my laptop is a "pre-fab" from Lenovo, it never came with an CDS or DVDs. The laptop doesn't even have a DVD drive. I would have to goto Lenovo's website and download the necessary drivers inclduing applications which are numerous and ridiculous. Some bloatware can be ignored but there is no AIO solution. I have to download everything piecemeal. I no longer have the patience or time to create a USB stick with all the drivers as has been discussed a several times in this forum.
I would rather reboot/reinstall the OEM Windows 10 from my Lenovo backup partition and upgrade to Win11via "upgrade"that then attempt a fresh and clean install of Win11 given my negative experiences. Once I have a good working OS installed, I use a backup utility like Acronis and create a backup of the OS and C drive.
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New #709
That is entirely up to you. The downloaded ISO file can be used to accomplish either. I usually just upgrade my existing OS. But I've always maintained an OS that works well by not tinkering or hacking it too much like lots of users here like to do and then wonder why the OS doesn't want to update/upgrade. The big one being blocking telemetry.
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