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  1. Posts : 21
    Windows10, Home 64 bit
       #590

    jonnied12 said:
    Don't fall for it. It's a trap!
    Not making a hurried decision at the moment. When I was offered free W10 in my W7, I skipped all of the windows updates - which pushed the update - turned from a user who used to download all windows updates to a user who rarely updated windows I have never missed any security updates though.

    CountMike said:
    There's nothing with AMD that would make it less compatible, small trouble with L3 cache but will be fixed, just practically imperceptible memory slowdown.
    if its as simple as that, I will consider but I am gonna wait a li'l longer before jumping the ship to W11


    quandary said:
    If you are serious about you PC then the very first thing to do is make an image copy. You can use Macrium Reflect (free edition) for this, but you obviously need some backup medium. Once you have done this you can perform the upgrade and try it out. If you don't like it (you should have already done research on the differences), then just restore the image copy.

    The backup or restore of a typical OS partition from one HDD to another is 15-20 minutes.
    The backup is something I have been considering for a while now & free versions have usually put me in doubt whether they can be reliable or not, at the time of need. I have been taking regular browser backups & my text file backups once or twice every month onto my pendrive & also lately on gDrive in encrypted forms - those are my only mission critical stuffs, all the rest I can manage.

    At the moment I have SanDisk 64GB & 128GB pendrives. I wasn't sure if space on them would be enough for backups.

    For all the nonsense I use my old W7 Core2Duo laptop - 512gb regular HDD, still have over 100gb left space on it.
    I was thinking of getting an external HDD but dilly-dallying on it, as I am not heavy HDD user, was wondering if its a worthy investment = may be will need to buy one - just to maintain backups.
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  2. Posts : 93
    Windows 11
       #591

    Your first priority is to get your backup strategy in place. The deciding factor with the OS is: are you prepared to do a clean install if there is a total failure. This involves reinstall and configuring all your apps, and making sure you have the license keys available. I am assuming you have a backup strategy for your data, either pendrive, either cloud storage, DVD, or all of these.

    Your options are easier if you have separate partitions for the OS and data, as you should have regular backups of your data, but may only need periodic backups of the OS. If there are space limitations then maybe only two versions. An image copy of an OS will require about 50% of space of the original partition.

    Macrium Reflect seems to be the most commonly used by people on this site. If you really like the product you are encouraged to purchase the full version. It is good to be skeptical about free software, but there should be no concerns about MR.

    External HDD's with tons of space are quite economical and worth every penny as a backup device. With HDD's you are compromising speed vs capacity and portability over an SSD. A 2TB HDD is about the same price as a 1HB SDD. With the HDD you will need a case and power supply. With the SSD & case you just plug it into a USB port.
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  3. Posts : 92
    Win10x64 Pro Linux Mint
       #592

    goodlad said:
    The backup is something I have been considering for a while now & free versions have usually put me in doubt whether they can be reliable or not, at the time of need. I have been taking regular browser backups & my text file backups once or twice every month onto my pendrive & also lately on gDrive in encrypted forms - those are my only mission critical stuffs, all the rest I can manage.
    At the moment I have SanDisk 64GB & 128GB pendrives. I wasn't sure if space on them would be enough for backups.
    For all the nonsense I use my old W7 Core2Duo laptop - 512gb regular HDD, still have over 100gb left space on it.
    I was thinking of getting an external HDD but dilly-dallying on it, as I am not heavy HDD user, was wondering if its a worthy investment = may be will need to buy one - just to maintain backups.
    Really all depends on how valuable your data is to you - whether it is media files, documents, etc. The good thing about MR and AOMEI which is often mentioned is that you can take a simple snapshot of your OS and if the worst comes to the worst simply boot from the USB and restore it in usually 10-20 minutes. Avoids the hassle of going through reinstalling the OS and the other programs you use.

    In my case I have a large media collection, mainly old documentaries with replacement availability zero so I store those on an external HD. That in turn automatically backs up to a NAS system. As the backup is fully automated it's a no brainer in my eyes - but then again many years ago I did have a total system failure with no backup so learned the hard way.

    Whilst many say 'you should' backup and I would agree, it obviously must come down to personal choice. I know a few folks that don't or can't be bothered but I've also known more than a couple that have lost all their old photos etc.

    Anyway, your choice and if you should decide to go down the backup route there's piles of strategies for doing so on the forum. Have a read and choose which is the most convenient for you and don't forget, even Win has it's own backup program called File History - zero cost. Maybe not the best but better than nothing.
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  4. Barman58's Avatar
    Posts : 4,127
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Latest RP
       #593

    I come from a Commercial/ Industrial Support / Management background and have found that backups are essential - I have also learned that some backups are more important than others ...

    The most important backup is that of your data, and I also include in this any software installers and their keys

    The backup of your Operating system and your applications are a way to save time when the worst happens and you need to recover from a loss of a hard drive or even a computer. The OS and applications should be available from online sources, but a backup gives you a working system more quickly.

    To be totally safe you are best to have a number of backup copies and these to be stored at different locations so they protect against failure of hardware and also of theft of the hardware ( especially so in the case of laptops ), but any backup is a good idea and can save a lot of issues.

    In a business these days loss of their data could cause the business to fail. With a private individual, the loss may be technically less in value but photographs and videos of family and friends that cannot be remade are just as valuable or more so - to the individual
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  5. Posts : 92
    Win10x64 Pro Linux Mint
       #594

    Crizal said:
    Certainly a learning curve but not difficult. Kind of weird that what used to take one or two clicks now, at times, takes three or four.
    Agreed the learning curve is not difficult but still cannot see the point (for me) to make the jump. From what I've seen running Win11 on my spare non-compliant laptop there's really nothing there. Now maybe over time as MS develop the OS further there will be a compelling reason to jump but for now.... And I agree, why the three or four clicks rather than one or two. Looks to me like rearranging the deckchairs.

    But if you like the look of the new UI then go for it. A personal choice in my book.
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    Posts : 2,194
    Windows 10 Home 64bit
       #595

    mart1981 said:
    Agreed the learning curve is not difficult but still cannot see the point (for me) to make the jump. From what I've seen running Win11 on my spare non-compliant laptop there's really nothing there. Now maybe over time as MS develop the OS further there will be a compelling reason to jump but for now.... And I agree, why the three or four clicks rather than one or two. Looks to me like rearranging the deckchairs.

    But if you like the look of the new UI then go for it. A personal choice in my book.
    For precisely what you stated is why I'm keeping my rig on Win 10 for the foreseeable future, even though it's fully compliant with 11. The Acer lappy is a loaner from a relative who wanted me to "play around" with Win 11. It will be going back soon.
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    Posts : 679
    Windows 10 64-bit
       #596

    Still waiting...
    but given the problems it has caused many folks, it's probably best it is rolled out to me later rather than now.

    Windows 11 available on October 5-screen-shot-10-22-21-12.35-pm.jpg
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  8. ThrashZone's Avatar
    Posts : 7,673
    3-Win-7Prox64 3-Win10Prox64 3-LinuxMint20.2
       #597

    Hi,
    Only real issue is the start menu is crap and only fix is third party free open shell which I do not like or payware.
    Sad ms couldn't add the ten start menu options is it not modern enough lol
    I'm just not using it when I do use 11.

    But for the most part besides moving settings it's not all that different than 10.
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  9. CountMike's Avatar
    Posts : 19,101
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #598

    ThrashZone said:
    Hi,
    Only real issue is the start menu is crap and only fix is third party free open shell which I do not like or payware.
    Sad ms couldn't add the ten start menu options is it not modern enough lol
    I'm just not using it when I do use 11.

    But for the most part besides moving settings it's not all that different than 10.
    All that they should change is to get rid of "Recommended" under APPs part so all APPS icons cane be displayed.
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  10. ThrashZone's Avatar
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    3-Win-7Prox64 3-Win10Prox64 3-LinuxMint20.2
       #599

    CountMike said:
    All that they should change is to get rid of "Recommended" under APPs part so all APPS icons cane be displayed.
    Hi,
    Not sure I didn't use a reg to remove recommended apps either
    I'll have to check that.
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