Microsoft Needs to Kill Windows 8 to Make Windows 10 a Hit, Says HP

dskiller · 18 Nov 2015

for now windows 8.1 should stay.

still some issues on windows 10 that dont show in windows 8.1

I think windows 10 needs couple years to mature.

what will we be saying about windows 10 in 2025 when it support ends? if it ends.

Jody Thornton · 18 Nov 2015

Atomic77 said:

For crying out loud there are still people using windows XP yet. 2023 is quite a ways off who knows by then alot of us might not even be still alive. No one can predict what technology will be like or do in the future.

Sorry, but 2023 will be here in an eye blink. If I go the same distance backwards that's 2008. To me, that's yesterday. I was running XP then, and I was still running it two years ago. To me, it pays to plan well ahead, so at least you have some sort of road map.

pparks1 · 18 Nov 2015

waltc said:

The attraction of Win10 is fairly easy to understand. If you own Win7/8.x, you have until 7/29/16 to upgrade to Windows 10 free of charge. There will not be a Win11 or 12, etc., so if Win7/8 users don't take advantage of the free upgrade to Win10 they will have to buy a license for Win10 when Microsoft stops supporting their current OS. That really makes no sense at all, considering you can get Win10 now, in perpetuity, and free of charge, if you upgrade from a retail version of Win7/8. Additionally, from this point forward, while Win7/8 will continue to get security updates for the remainder of their lifespans, all new features and advances will go into Windows10.

I won't buy a laptop or a pre-built desktop precisely because of components being overpriced and often custom-made & requiring specialty OEM-only drivers (regardless of OS.) For personal use I have built my own from hand-picked components since 1995...

Dell cannot compete, unfortunately. OEMs are strictly for people who either cannot or will not build their own desktops, or for people who want laptops or other non-user-upgradable/serviceable machines, imo.

It's gotten hard to beat price on OEMs. Advantage to building is getting EXACTLY the parts you want. And I am all laptops these days, so I havent built in a while now.

My son and I will likely build a gaming rig in the next year or so. He is 8, and understands technology well. And video games are his life.

Dean73 · 24 Nov 2015

You know that Satya was born in India right? No Offense :)

After Bill left I felt sad not only about him leaving, but also nervous about another CEO or Chief Executive screwing everything in it's path. Long story made short I updated to Win10 on my pops laptop (th1), but then things went horribly wrong. Very very wrong I faced many issues with incompatibility that I had no choice to wipe and install 7 on it again.

He said to me no way he was going to fork out 700 dollars just to go on Windows 10.

orlbuckeye · 24 Nov 2015

Leopard said:

Is HP and the other OEMs in denial ? Answer: yes ...More than a billion PCs are over three years old, and there's little reason to replace them | ZDNet As per my previous post (#59) in this thread , I think the W10 OEM cartel is doomed. Media coverage such as this questions why this cartel even exists. If OEMs are going to survive they will have to disassociate themselves from MS and offer new hardware as-is - new hardware should come with either no OS or a user choice OS pre-installed - no more OEM software EULAS. Stay out of the OS wars and sell PCs, MACs, tablets, smart phones, accessories and peripherals. OEMs also need to stop modifying driver sets and leave them open to manufacturer updates. IMO, that would increase sales and improve user satisfaction with their products and services.

OEM's cant sell MAC's. Not that was a Steve Jobs thing but they haven't allowed it yet so it sounds like Cook feels the same. MS has trained most of the world on MS OS's and enterprise would have to start the drive away from MS (Won't happen).

Leopard · 24 Nov 2015

You are right on that. It has always been their business model. I agree that it is unlikely to happen, but maybe it is worth a cold call to Apple to present an unsolicited proposal. They have nothing to lose. MS is a competitor as well as a 'partner'.