Introducing Windows 11

AllenChicago · 30 Jul 2021

jimbo45 said:

Hi there

@AllenChicago

Cheers
jimbo

Thank-you for the thorough/detailed response, Jimbo!

I'm going to take the easy way out and trade in the 2009 HP Pavilion Desktop for a newer model. Its age is showing more and more as new technologies are introduced.

The other day, there was a tornado warning and I couldn't get the newly upgraded National Weather Service weather radar (Chicago, IL ) to animate, due to the AMD graphics driver being so out of date.

But first, I'm going to upgrade the newest laptop in the house (2020 Samsung Galaxybook Intel I-7 SSD) to Windows 11. If Win 11 is appealing, I'll upgrade the 2009 HP to a newer model desktop.

Jimbo, thanks again for explaining how older systems can be made to run Windows 11. I hope you made that valuable information a "sticky" in the new Windows 11 forum. I'm sure thousands of individuals will appreciate the guidance.

All the best,

Allen in Chicagoland

Berton · 31 Jul 2021

Got a new notice today, disappointed at no option listed for Local Account.

jimjoe · 02 Aug 2021

I read the google news accumulator news page. There was an article on there a couple of days ago that claimed MS says it wont work to try and get around the hardware requirements. I didn't click on it and read it. So I don't know how true that is.

sygnus21 · 02 Aug 2021

I'm running it on my 2017 Lenovo laptop now. OS runs great thus far and is a lot snappier than Windows 10.

mingle · 18 Aug 2021

It's a shame, as none of my machines ( 5 of them) have TPM. I guess as long as Windows 10 is supported for a while, I'll be fine.

Perhaps this is the push I finally need to jump to Linux Mint as a desktop replacement - I currently have one machine set up with Mint 20.2 xfce and it's actually snappier than an identical machine running Win 10.

I also run VirtualBox on the Linux box, under which I run a Windows 10 VM for a couple of programs I need. Looks like that will be the future for me!

Mikey89 · 18 Aug 2021

So is W11 gonna be free upgrade for owners of W10 just like W10 was for owners of W7 ?

Not even gonna change to W11 faster than 1-2 years since i wanna see how it is for gaming... but i'd rather just ask.

jimbo45 · 18 Aug 2021

mingle said:

It's a shame, as none of my machines ( 5 of them) have TPM. I guess as long as Windows 10 is supported for a while, I'll be fine.

Perhaps this is the push I finally need to jump to Linux Mint as a desktop replacement - I currently have one machine set up with Mint 20.2 xfce and it's actually snappier than an identical machine running Win 10.

I also run VirtualBox on the Linux box, under which I run a Windows 10 VM for a couple of programs I need. Looks like that will be the future for me!

Hi there

@mingle

In Linux you can run the TPM emulator for using TPM - run Windows 11 in KVM/QEMU on your Linux box -- KVM is a HYPERVISOR like HYPER-V and runs Windows 11 perfectly. In the VM enable secure boot and UEFI (install package OVMF for UEFI boot of the VM).

Here's the IBM TPM emulator on Linux Host and working in the Windows VM

Any ideas on using TPM in a Windows 11 VM | Windows 11 Forum

You can also concurrently run VMWare and VBOX guests but I've found W11 running on KVM is fine. Note you can enable UEFI and secure boot for the VM even if this doesn't exist in the BIOS of the HOST machine. The TPM emulator is the one provided by IBM - just install it in your Linux box. Windows 11 VM will start it if needed.

I'm using Arch Linux with KDE GUI desktop and kernel 5-13.10. It should work easily on Linux Mint as well. Any GUI will be OK (or even none -- although for GUI managing the VM's is easier - virt-manager is the package you need to install).

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Cheers
jimbo

Bree · 18 Aug 2021

Mikey89 said:

So is W11 gonna be free upgrade for owners of W10 just like W10 was for owners of W7 ?

Yes. If your W10 PC meets the system requirements for W11 (secure boot, TPM 2.0 and a supported processor) then it will be offered as an optional update in Windows Update, same as with W10 version updates (like 20H2).

Microsoft said:

These are the basic requirements for installing Windows 11 on a PC. If your device does not meet these requirements, you may not be able to install Windows 11 on your device....

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...specifications

DaveH1 · 19 Aug 2021

I was surprised and pleased to find that using the information here, and here, I was able to install Windows 11 on my ancient (for a computer) 2009 motherboard.
After some Windows Updates, I now have Windows 11 Pro version 21H2 build 22000.160.
Seems to be working absolutely fine.
I'm not a Windows Insider though, so does that mean that it won't update itself properly?

IronZorg89 · 19 Aug 2021

DaveH1 said:

I was surprised and pleased to find that using the information here, and here, I was able to install Windows 11 on my ancient (for a computer) 2009 motherboard.
After some Windows Updates, I now have Windows 11 Pro version 21H2 build 22000.160.
Seems to be working absolutely fine.
I'm not a Windows Insider though, so does that mean that it won't update itself properly?

In my opinion, this is a difficult question to answer since MS is revising their hardware requirements for installing Win 11. I think we will have to wait until the official stable release at the end of the year or beginning of 2022. So many things can change until that time.