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  1. Posts : 481
    Windows 10 Pro
       #110

    If my i9 10850K support TPM 1.2, how do I activate this?
    In my BIOS in security section I can set TPM to either PTT or dTPM ?!?!
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  2. Posts : 106
    Windows 10 Enterprise "Dev Insider"
       #111

    Sure some will disagree but I think Microsoft have shot themselves in the foot on this one with regards to the TPM, especially during a shortage of chips and parts in the global pandemic. Not everyone is going to be able to update their systems, there isnt a lot of stuff out there unless your prepared to pay silly prices
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  3. Posts : 526
    Windows 10
       #112

    Burgurne said:
    If my i9 10850K support TPM 1.2, how do I activate this?
    In my BIOS in security section I can set TPM to either PTT or dTPM ?!?!
    From Google:
    "Some Dell systems do not ship with a TPM(Trusted Platform Module) module, and instead, use PTT (Platform Trust Technology). PTT is a lower-cost solution that supports the same functions of the TPM. 23 dic. 2020".

    dTPM may refer to discrete TPM, a separate chip in the mobo.

    Try both to see which, if any, makes a difference regarding Win 11.
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  4. Posts : 636
    Windows 10 PRO 64Bit
       #113

    Ghot said:
    That IS a TPM-L R 2.0 (20-1) module.
    I am not sure if the Supermicro TPM-L R2.0 would work on my ASUS motherboard. Even If I can get that TPM working, Windows 11 does not support my I7-4770K. Looks like I may be stuck with Windows 10.

    Ak
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  5. Posts : 23,281
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #114

    alkaufmann said:
    I am not sure if the Supermicro TPM-L R2.0 would work on my ASUS motherboard. Even If I can get that TPM working, Windows 11 does not support my I7-4770K. Looks like I may be stuck with Windows 10.

    Ak



    As for the TPM module...ask ASUS tech support.
    As for the rest... I think you'll be fine.


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  6. Posts : 2,557
    Windows 10 pro x64-bit
       #115

    The PC Health Check App from MS will tell you where you stand. In my case, my production machine HP Envy i74770 didn't cut it.

    Introducing Windows 11-pc-cannot-run-windows-11-hp.png

    But my non-production machine Asus RTX 2080Ti did pass the test.

    Introducing Windows 11-pc-can-run-windows-11-asus.png
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  7. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       #116

    John Pombrio said:
    sygnus21 said:
    Since then I no longer buy dedicated TPM modules since TPM is now integrated into the motherboard's BIOS.
    Only a few server-type mobos have a TPM chip installed on them which the corporations use for company-wide security. Most consumer boards do not. Instead, Intel and AMD have implemented TPM onto their CPUs in their firmware. Discrete is for a mobo's TPM header and a TPM module, firmware means onboard the CPU. In any case, according to MS, all three options (dongle, mobo chip, and CPU) for TPM acts in exactly the same way for Windows.
    Please read/re-read my post (#43) here - Introducing Windows 11. I'm speaking on personal experience here, not guesswork. As this article (Microsoft explains Windows 11 requirement of TPM 2.0) states...
    Even though TPM 2.0 has been in new PCs for years, it's a technology that many hadn't heard of until this week.
    As stated most never heard of TPM until the Windows 11 requirements and therefor may not be aware they actually have TPM and thus there's no need to run out and purchase a TPM module. It's already implemented on the motherboard via the BIOS.

    John Pombrio said:
    In any case, according to MS, all three options (dongle, mobo chip, and CPU) for TPM acts in exactly the same way for Windows.
    Not doubting that, I'm simply saying it also includes "Firmware TPM" (TPM integrated into the BIOS). I have yet to see anything that specifically excludes "Firmware" TPM. Do you have a link saying Firmware TPM won't work???

    Lastly, if one bought a Windows 10 based PC from a vendor then it most likely already using TPM since Microsoft made it a requirement last year for the Windows 10 requirements - https://www.microsoft.com/security/b...mware-attacks/
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  8. Posts : 7,906
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #117

    scoopjeff said:
    Sure some will disagree but I think Microsoft have shot themselves in the foot on this one with regards to the TPM, especially during a shortage of chips and parts in the global pandemic. Not everyone is going to be able to update their systems, there isnt a lot of stuff out there unless your prepared to pay silly prices
    Shot themselves in both feet I say
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  9. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       #118

    scoopjeff said:
    Sure some will disagree but I think Microsoft have shot themselves in the foot on this one with regards to the TPM, especially during a shortage of chips and parts in the global pandemic. Not everyone is going to be able to update their systems, there isnt a lot of stuff out there unless your prepared to pay silly prices
    By the time Windows 11 is released to the general public most of the shortages will be a thing of the past. And again, most people already have TPM but don't know it. And as noted (a few times) Windows already includes tools to let you know if your machine has TPM or not, also what version.

    Good luck.
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  10. Posts : 56
    Windows 10
       #119

    Personally I think the PC Health app is designed to tell users they need a new PC or there's something wrong with the app. My 2 year old home build (gaming desktop) failed the first check, went into bios, made sure UEFI Secure boot was on, activated the TPM 2.0 (set to Firmware) on my Asus Prime X470-Pro/Ryzen 7 2700 chip and checked my graphics card. Also upgraded my BIOs, all set up to meet the stated requirements.
    Ran the check again and it failed again..........
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