Exactly! :)
Thank you! I forgot! I just got my new notebook. System specs updated! This one came with 16GB of RAM, yay
Yes. I can't see why they would ban 7th gen. That is almost identical to 8th gen. (which is Kaby lake refresh), it's not like there are any major differences. Also 8th gen is just as vulnerable to almost all of the exploits like 7th. I'm confused.
What is the point to beta test their windows when they gonna lock us later outside.
Second if they want to exclude old systems the only requirement they need to put is uefi bios. So all the pc after sandybridge will work as intented.
I agree. But they could still change their messed up minds if they realize that they will lose many customers.
As you said an UEFI requirement with 4 GB of RAM should be sufficient. Perhaps the TPM too if they want to do out-of-the-box encryption and stuff but nothing beyond these are sane requirements in my opinion.
Do we know if secure boot has to be enabled for windows 11? Or is just having tpm turned on enough?
Enabling TPM is another boot slowdown on the board. We are going forward in security and backwards in speed
Ummmm???
Going forward!
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...0-boot-process
Different types of rootkits load during different phases of the startup process:
- Firmware rootkits. These kits overwrite the firmware of the PC’s basic input/output system or other hardware so the rootkit can start before Windows.
- Bootkits. These kits replace the operating system’s bootloader (the small piece of software that starts the operating system) so that the PC loads the bootkit before the operating system.
- Kernel rootkits. These kits replace a portion of the operating system kernel so the rootkit can start automatically when the operating system loads.
- Driver rootkits. These kits pretend to be one of the trusted drivers that Windows uses to communicate with the PC hardware.
Windows 10 supports four features to help prevent rootkits and bootkits from loading during the startup process:
- Secure Boot. PCs with UEFI firmware and a Trusted Platform Module (TPM) can be configured to load only trusted operating system bootloaders.
- Trusted Boot. Windows checks the integrity of every component of the startup process before loading it.
- Early Launch Anti-Malware (ELAM). ELAM tests all drivers before they load and prevents unapproved drivers from loading.
- Measured Boot. The PC’s firmware logs the boot process, and Windows can send it to a trusted server that can objectively assess the PC’s health.
Guys I have said it before, these so called requirements are just for economical benefits for Microsoft and Hardware manufactures.
Windows 11 is exactly the same as Windows 10, just a new theme, no more or less.
Here is WhyNotWin11 result from inside Windows 11, and btw secure boot was disabled in vmware, I am not sure how it found it enabled.
As far of the current ISO, you can install Windows 11 on any PC regardless and it will work, as long they don't change the core, it is still the same as Windows 10.
Future releases may change things but as of now Windows 11 is the same as Windows 10. I am guessing the only requirement will be x64 compatible CPU as the only Windows 11 out there is so far x64 version.
I currently have 4 Precision Workstations, 2 T5600's, 1 T3600 and a T3610. They are more than modern enough to run Windows 11 in my opinion. Windows 10 runs perfectly on all of them and they benchmark very well after I upgraded the RAM, added SSD,s, modern graphics cards, etc.
I really can't fathom Microsoft leaving the hardware requirements as they currently stand. The poll on the 11 Forums shows more than half the participants systems are not compliant. Now think of this globally, they would have another ME, Vista or Windows 8 on their hands in my opinion.
I can see them not supporting 32 bit, that's realistic and we all know it. Business's are still running older systems that are not compliant, The factory I work at still has mostly older Dell Optiplex systems. As so many have pointed out, Microsoft would be shooting themselves in the foot.
Combine this with global shortages and it gives me serious doubt that the hardware requirements will remain as they now stand. They will likely say that meeting them provides the best experience. Also, think about all the negative press the requirements are going to generate and likely millions of confused user's trying to upgrade.
A leaked developer build is not the final release! The leak was clearly deliberate to build anticipation. I think the hardware requirements as they stand are for the same purpose. They would go from zero to hero instantly by changing them and I think that's exactly what they have in mind.
We have Windows 10 until October 2025 in either case. I have a plan B as do many. KDE's Plasma Desktop gets nicer every release! I am not about to run out and buy new hardware just to run Windows 11 and you shouldn't either!
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