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  1. Brink's Avatar
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  3. dalchina's Avatar
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    A major shake-up would be a radical architectural departure- make O/S maintenance independent of installed applications.

    That way the heartache and anxiety of Windows (oops it won't be Windows- let's call it OS365) upgrades might become almost a thing of the past.

    Would that reduce MS's cost base? Only in the long term- certainly less egg-on-face, not that that seems to worry them.

    Or how about making it applicable only to devices meeting certain criteria, i.e. modern ones - remove legacy compatibility issues?

    Running both Windows and OS365 in parallel would allow the market for OS365 to slowly mature. But business takeup would surely be minimal on cost, training and familiarity grounds unless it actually functioned very similarly at the user level.

    On a trivial level I still vote for rounded corners and ...hey, what's wrong with Vista icons?
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    Nothing as they at least make sense from a visual perspective unlike many of the new one in the latest DEV builds.

    We need a Vista 2.0 not crappy 7/8/8.1/10 each build getting more cut out it.
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    Hi there
    Ms doesn't make shedloads of money out of Windows on consumer / home users PC's any more (and it's nothing to do with Piracy either) -- it's not the mega earner as before. Cloud services AZURE, A.I. Robotics, some gaming X-box stuff , Office subscriptions, and consultancy are where it's all at currently so Ms's strategy will IMO be looking to monetise users of Windows in other things that can run on it.

    As far as Windows backgrounds are concerned -- my 2 favourites were VISTA's Glass theme and XP's Black LUMA - both beat W10 themes hands over fist.

    Here's XP Luna Black theme (on a VM)



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    MS made most of their money back in the day from Office over Windows.

    I liked XP MCE Royale but MS got pissed when it was leaked as standalone for non MCE XP but then allowed users to use it outside MCE due to overall good feedback/demand.

    Also that Silver one was nice.
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    z3r010 said:
    They gave it away, I didn't think anybody paid for it.
    Those of us who built new computers that came from no prior license had to buy it.
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  8. Barman58's Avatar
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    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there
    Ms doesn't make shedloads of money out of Windows on consumer / home users PC's any more (and it's nothing to do with Piracy either) -- it's not the mega earner as before. Cloud services AZURE, A.I. Robotics, some gaming X-box stuff , Office subscriptions, and consultancy are where it's all at currently so Ms's strategy will IMO be looking to monetise users of Windows in other things that can run on it.

    As far as Windows backgrounds are concerned -- my 2 favourites were VISTA's Glass theme and XP's Black LUMA - both beat W10 themes hands over fist.

    Here's XP Luna Black theme (on a VM)



    Watch what is next for Windows event on June 24, 2021-screenshot_20210611_174258.png

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Microsoft never made money out of Consumer Windows Systems, not when you add in the cost of supporting it for Free , the technicians and other support staff needed payment. the money making potential was with the sales to business and industry, and to some extent the education markets. These markets not only paid for the software but also the support they received.

    Another earnings stream for Microsoft was of course the OEM markets, although the OS was heavily discounted to the OEM the support costs were passed on to the OEM so cost Microsoft very little, as they did not have to spend as much money to train and pay support staff.

    What the consumer market did for microsoft was made Windows the go to operating system for people to use at work and thus made business markets purchase it,
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  9. jimbo45's Avatar
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    Barman58 said:
    Microsoft never made money out of Consumer Windows Systems, not when you add in the cost of supporting it for Free , the technicians and other support staff needed payment. the money making potential was with the sales to business and industry, and to some extent the education markets. These markets not only paid for the software but also the support they received.

    Another earnings stream for Microsoft was of course the OEM markets, although the OS was heavily discounted to the OEM the support costs were passed on to the OEM so cost Microsoft very little, as they did not have to spend as much money to train and pay support staff.

    What the consumer market did for microsoft was made Windows the go to operating system for people to use at work and thus made business markets purchase it,
    I still think as far as Windows for consumers is concerned Ms will be trying to find some sort of income stream even if they can't turn Windows into a subscription service. I'm sure there's plenty of people at Ms who can devise all sorts of revenue streams -- pity that their QC dept doesn't have (or appear to have) the same skill set. !!

    Hope you're watching Wales V Switzerland today in the Euros !!!! Swiss Cheese isn't my favourite and I've enjoyed myself in Wales on various visits in the past (when I can understand them) in spite of the worst potholes on roads in major cities (Cardiff/Swansea) that I've ever seen (or felt in a bumpy car) in my life so good luck to the Welsh today.

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    As you know, Wales is famous for its hills, mountains, and valleys...
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