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  1. johngalt's Avatar
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       #270

    ish4d0w said:
    No, it's not even in the ballpark. Vista had higher system requirements but that's because it had a much more robust kernel, a brand new driver framework, much higher demanding visuals and just generally, a lot more background processes going on. THAT was demanding but even that was justified with higher CPU and RAM requirements, also graphics if you wanted more than the basic windows retro theme which was still available.
    It was not very well optimized, it was painfully slow with 1G of RAM, even with 2G, but with Windows 7 they got it right.

    A jump in RAM requirements from Windows 10's 2G (x64) to 4G could be justified in my opinion. I can hardly imagine any system working with less than 4G nowadays. Even 4 is so slow, 8 is barely enough for power users.

    I upgraded to 16G and it is a dream. No loading times. I did use SSDs before but the additional RAM makes it way better. SuperFetch at it's finest.

    But TPM? Come on, that's not even a required feature. BitLocker and stuff needs it but besides... not so much. Especially not version 2.0. It is obviously a testing requirement for this internal build. It is wrong to make assumptions on that.
    And let's not forget that this prerelease leaked edition allegedly runs just fine without a TPM. You just have to deploy the image manually. (like, put it inside a Windows 10 installer to disable the check for TPM)

    WHY they have implemented a check for a TPM as a requirement in the installer is quite interesting though. MY idea is that this will not be enforced for existing computers, but only for new OEM prebuilt systems that said the new PCs that will ship with Windows 11 *or whatever it will be called*, will have TPM2.0 by default and the OS will be encrypted by default with BitLocker, or something similar. This would greatly enhance user security but also cause a lot of pain for users who lose their keys, passwords etc... Making Microsoft accounts mandatory to set up a new installation on a Windows 11-certified PC could get around this issue though. The key could easily be saved into the MS account much like it is done today.

    It would be, what, just more forced than it is today. That is the main reason I can see why there is a TPM requirement. I can also imagine a next generation password/identity lock feature which could store all your passwords, login credentials locally and the TPM2.0 would help with keeping that vault locked.
    Combine that with a strong login password, enforced secure boot, disabled alternative boot options and maybe some next-level OS integrity checking on boot up (perhaps a read-only system partition much like EroFS on android), it would become more difficult to retrieve passwords from a PC unless they are able to log in properly.

    You do realize that everything you listed was the *exact* reason I said that as a response to the post I responded to, right?
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  2. johngalt's Avatar
    Posts : 2,622
    Windows 10 x64 Pro build 21H1
       #271

    alphanumeric said:
    I really really liked Windows 2000. I used it at home for many many years. It was actually pretty game friendly and way more reliable than Windows 95 or 98. IMHO anyway.
    I did like it as well, and it was one reason I took to XP easily, having had that experience in running Win200 Pro.
    Bree said:
    Tying the digital licence to your MS account is an optional extra, the primary link for the digital licence on the activation servers is to the unique hardware ID of the machine. I've never had to enter a product key for a reinstall either, but I don't use a MS account - I only ever use local accounts.

    A clean install of this leaked 'Windows 11', skipping entering a key when asked, on a VM that had an existing digital licence for W10 Pro activated immediately. As did an in-place upgrade to 'Win11' of an actived W10 Home VM. Both use local accounts only.

    Nice. But I prefer to be able to verify it in my user account, so I can also clear out old, unneeded licenses when I want to.
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  3. ThrashZone's Avatar
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    3-Win-7Prox64 2-Win10Prox64
       #272

    Hi,
    If I can't mount the iso like I always do then that's all she wrote for what ever ms calls this version of 10.
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  4. Bree's Avatar
    Posts : 20,122
    10 Home x64 (21H1) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #273

    johngalt said:
    Nice. But I prefer to be able to verify it in my user account, so I can also clear out old, unneeded licenses when I want to.
    As I said, linking to an MS account is an optional extra, in addition to the basic hardware ID activation. It can also be useful for reactivating Windows after significant hardware changes such as a motherboard swap.
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  5. Kari's Avatar
    Posts : 17,584
    Windows 10 Pro
       #274

    Just to stir the pot a bit: I liked Vista, never had any issues with it.

    Kari
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  6. ThrashZone's Avatar
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    3-Win-7Prox64 2-Win10Prox64
       #275

    Hi,
    Yeah vista was okay I only had it 30 days or so the machine came with free win-7 upgrade
    Win-7 libraries was a mess though lol
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  7. sgage's Avatar
    Posts : 1,217
    Windows 10 Pro (Build 19043.1110)
       #276

    Kari said:
    Just to stir the pot a bit: I liked Vista, never had any issues with it.

    Kari
    Me too, Kari. It came installed on an HP that I bought in 2008, and it had all the relevant drivers and plenty of resources to work with. I slapped an nvidia card in there, and Aero Glass was beautiful. But soon Win7 came along...
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  8. Melchior's Avatar
    Posts : 380
    Windows 10 Pro (x64)(v21H1)(Build 19043.1151)
       #277

    alphanumeric said:
    I really really liked Windows 2000. I used it at home for many many years. It was actually pretty game friendly and way more reliable than Windows 95 or 98. IMHO anyway.
    yeah, I agree Windows 2000 was a new NT OS and a sweet spot for its time...
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  9. magilla's Avatar
    Posts : 3,216
    Windows 10 and windows insider
       #278

    sgage said:
    Me too, Kari. It came installed on an HP that I bought in 2008, and it had all the relevant drivers and plenty of resources to work with. I slapped an nvidia card in there, and Aero Glass was beautiful. But soon Win7 came along...
    Yes, I liked vista and win 8.1 too! So shoot me!
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  10. Marcus Vinicus's Avatar
    Posts : 110
    Windows 10 21H1
       #279

    Reading some of the comments about people's favorite old operating systems prompts me to observe that IT geeks tend to be sentimental about operating systems past!

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