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  1. dalchina's Avatar
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       #250

    Thanks- that was a new experience- and I've now learnt my fact for the day... (ics).
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       #251

    Mikey89 said:
    Me ?

    Of course i did, it's literally the only OS that can't be pirated not that i approve of piracy but charging 200 euros for an OS is just absurd.
    I've got some news for you..
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  3. Compumind's Avatar
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       #252

    dalchina said:
    Thanks- that was a new experience- and I've now learnt my fact for the day... (ics).
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  4. Winuser's Avatar
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    ish4d0w said:
    Well yes, kind of, but actually no. They were pretty clever about it and that was nothing like this unfounded rumor of a linux kernel. Windows 11, or whatever this will be called (because they still did not name it officially) is based on NT and it is very similar, almost identical to Windows 10 in-core. A switch to a Linux kernel is almost impossible because it would completely break compatibility: programs, drivers, device support, everything.


    Uhm, you need to keep track of it. Sorry pal. What Apple has, or had, is none of that. Not UNIX and not Linux. It has loose ends of both, but also some from BSD and from their own... The example is wrong because, with extremely hard work, Apple could ensure some degree of compatibility to smoothen transition but this would be IMPOSSIBLE for a Windows kernel to Linux kernel switch. Also no point.
    A car manufacturer who can produce engines has no reason to use an engine from another maker.

    However, Apple is a whole different world, lets not get them in the mix, that's my advice.
    Car manufacturers have used engines from other companies.
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  5. Posts : 169
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    Winuser said:
    Car manufacturers have used engines from other companies.
    Well yes, you got me, just as OS manufacturers sometimes borrow things from one another. However, I still find it unreasonable for Microsoft to replace Windows's kernel with a Linux kernel.

    Perhaps I didn't use the right example: in this case it wouldn't be the engine, it would be a totally different car because it would break everything.
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  6. Winuser's Avatar
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    ish4d0w said:
    Well yes, you got me, just as OS manufacturers sometimes borrow things from one another. However, I still find it unreasonable for Microsoft to replace Windows's kernel with a Linux kernel.

    Perhaps I didn't use the right example: in this case it wouldn't be the engine, it would be a totally different car because it would break everything.
    I agree! I don't see MS switching to a Linux Kernel. Just from what I read it would have to be a new OS and users would need new software and hardware. It would be very expensive.
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  7. CountMike's Avatar
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    Just got mail
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  8. johngalt's Avatar
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       #257

    Winuser said:
    I agree! I don't see MS switching to a Linux Kernel. Just from what I read it would have to be a new OS and users would need new software and hardware. It would be very expensive.
    Which is the situation we're in now.

    *new OS - check. Althogh plenty of people are gonna try to stupidly jump down my throat that this is just (mostly) aestehtic effects on top of Win10, yeah, no kidding, it's how they start all their OSs. Please don't try to argue with me about it, I've been doing this for a very long time.

    *need new software - eh, maybe. The OS will be new, eventually, but some of the below aspects may require some software vendors to change things around, too.

    *meed new hardware - check. Although Secure boot is relatively widespread with the proliferation of UEFI based BIOS, TPM 2.0 is NOT. I built a machine around the mobo and CPU I wanted last year, and TPM 1.2 / 2.0 is available to if I choose to use it - but it wasn't even a consideration for me when I went to build, so you could say it was a nice bonus. You could also say I got lucky as heck. But most people are not going to have it.

    So....It's possible.
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  9. larc919's Avatar
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    johngalt said:
    Although Secure boot is relatively widespread with the proliferation of UEFI based BIOS, TPM 2.0 is NOT. I built a machine around the mobo and CPU I wanted last year, and TPM 1.2 / 2.0 is available to if I choose to use it - but it wasn't even a consideration for me when I went to build, so you could say it was a nice bonus. You could also say I got lucky as heck. But most people are not going to have it.
    I don't believe for one second that Microsoft will require TPM 2.0 on the release build of Windows 11. Just think of all the grief they would get if they did that. Many current Windows users with older computers would have to buy new ones. Even some of us who build our own may need new motherboards, and that could mean new CPUs and memory as well. Since OEM versions of Windows can't be transferred, new keys would be needed by many. What an uproar that would cause.
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  10. alphanumeric's Avatar
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    Microsoft have tried to port Windows for different Chip architectures. Windows 10 on Arm and Windows 10 IoT. IMHO its a very big stretch calling IoT Windows. It bears little to no resemblance, I tried it out on my Raspberry Pi. Windows on Arm won't (officially) run on my Raspberry Pi so I haven't had a look see and can't comment on it.
    There is a Linux subsystem in Windows 10. I've only ever briefly tinkered with it.
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