How to get the Windows 10 May 2021 Update version 21H1

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  1. Posts : 50,055
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 21H1 and insider builds
       #100

    dacrone said:
    ^ Now that is information that I have not heard before. Definitely good to know. I will switch to Beta on all. I also have a script that allows one to enroll/unenroll in insider builds with a bogus account (so as to not actually sign up for insider). I will test that out this evening and see if it will unenroll me as well. Thanks for the tip.
    I don't think they have specifically announced it but it was clear to me from the start of the DEV channel and the statement that they would be developer builds which may contain features which don't make it to RTM.
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  2. Posts : 148
    Windows 10 Pro x64 22H2
       #101

    Just as an aside, I was pleased to find that the 21H1 x64 ISO fits onto a DVD boot disk again.
    20H2 x64 was too big to actually fit on a DVD, despite the DVD option still being offered by the Media Creation Tool, and I had to use an expensive Blu-ray disk!
    (The 32 bit version of 20H2 was smaller of course and therefore OK.)
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  3. Posts : 56,825
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #102

    DaveH1 said:
    Just as an aside, I was pleased to find that the 21H1 x64 ISO fits onto a DVD boot disk again.
    20H2 x64 was too big to actually fit on a DVD, despite the DVD option still being offered by the Media Creation Tool, and I had to use an expensive Blu-ray disk!
    (The 32 bit version of 20H2 was smaller of course and therefore OK.)
    Can you use USB thumb drives? A whole lot faster, reusable, and a standard off the shelf 8GB will hold just about anything MS can currently come up with. A fully packed x64 ISO with every edition is 6.5GB, thereabouts, and fits nicely with room to spare.
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  4. Posts : 148
    Windows 10 Pro x64 22H2
       #103

    Yes I could use a thumb drive of course, but as my machines have optical drives available I still like to use a DVD, perhaps for no better reason than the fact that I've always done.
    Old school!
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  5. Posts : 1,191
    Windows 11 Pro x64
       #104

    Did a repair install from the iso just to start clean.
    I ran sfc after and was surprised to find it found integrity violations, but it did fix them.
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  6. Posts : 76
    win 10
       #105

    I'm just interested more than anything, but (with 20H2 and 2004) why are the file sizes different between the different versions you could download from MS?

    If you download using MCT on Windows machine, the ISOs are smaller than if you downloaded on a non-Windows machine (either English - which is US or English International - which installs UK ENG). Around 4.5gb vs 6.5gb.
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    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #106

    TenneR said:
    I'm just interested more than anything, but (with 20H2 and 2004) why are the file sizes different between the different versions you could download from MS?

    If you download using MCT on Windows machine, the ISOs are smaller than if you downloaded on a non-Windows machine (either English - which is US or English International - which installs UK ENG). Around 4.5gb vs 6.5gb.
    The Media creation tool will create what is called an ESD format ISO, the data is much more compact. Other versions, like straight downloads may be in the un-compressed WIM format. That the quick version of why. Also, that 6.5GB version appears to be all editions.... home, Pro, Education, etc. It will be bigger. Media creation tool only includes what is your current OS edition
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  8. Posts : 2,832
    Windows 10 Pro X64
       #107

    Hi,

    Microsoft WIM file is Windows Imaging format which is easier for Windows utilities such as Dism to work with whereas the ESD format is designed for Electronic Software Distribution.
    ESD is more heavily compressed in order to keep web traffic as low as feasable.

    Cheers,
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  9. Posts : 76
    win 10
       #108

    Unsure where to post this, so I'll chance it in here.

    So I decided to test a fresh install of Windows 10 Home and configured it to my preference such as turning privacy options off, disabling telemetry, data collection and the like.

    By default, it installs 19043.928 and whilst it stated it had checked for updates, it looks like it only installed some system and display drivers. This amounted to ~150mb 'from Microsoft' (Delivery Optimisation>Activity Monitor>Download Stats).

    This figure later increased to ~400mb I think as a result of Windows updating 'threat protection updates', but when I checked under update history, there's no trace of it there (only shown under Windows Security)?

    Several hours later, I noticed some download activity and thought it might be Win updates, however this was not evident under Windows Updates. This download amounted to ~800mb as Download stats increased to 1.2gb. I've also noticed this with previous versions of freshly installed windows - has anyone else noticed and know what this relates to (just curious)?

    It was only today - as soon as I got online - that Windows updated to 19043.985 (why did it not yesterday?), provided options to download drivers and updated security intelligence files etc and now reflected under Update History. This latest set of files took the 1.2gb to 1.9gb.

    Does it look fine to you guys?

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    f14tomcat said:
    The Media creation tool will create what is called an ESD format ISO, the data is much more compact. Other versions, like straight downloads may be in the un-compressed WIM format. That the quick version of why. Also, that 6.5GB version appears to be all editions.... home, Pro, Education, etc. It will be bigger. Media creation tool only includes what is your current OS edition
    fdegrove said:
    Hi,

    Microsoft WIM file is Windows Imaging format which is easier for Windows utilities such as Dism to work with whereas the ESD format is designed for Electronic Software Distribution.
    ESD is more heavily compressed in order to keep web traffic as low as feasable.

    Cheers,

    Thanks f14tomcat and fdegrove for you explanations. So WIM file, although larger in size, is the one to go for?

    I'm sure the MCT version also gives the option to install Home, Pro etc.?
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  10. Posts : 2,832
    Windows 10 Pro X64
       #109

    Hi,

    So WIM file, although larger in size, is the one to go for?
    That's what I would go for generally speaking. That said if you do not have the necessary knowledge to take it to your advantage there's little use for it really.
    IMHO a decent backup policy is the best solution for most people.

    Cheers,
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