KB5000802 CU Windows 10 v2004 build 19041.867 and v20H2 19042.867  

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  1. Posts : 3,269
    Windows 10 and windows insider
       #290

    Caledon Ken said:
    Excellent.


    The repair install definitely has its use.


    Stay safe
    Wish I could say that. I attempted a repair install yesterday and it failed, blue screened, stalled, took out my hard drive. Now the system says there is no hard drive present. This laptop has automatic repair feature. When run for hours, it concluded no hard drive is present. Diskpart finds no hard drive. So, win some, lose some!
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  2. Posts : 145
    Windows 10 Home
       #291

    Caledon Ken said:
    That is strange. You should be able to re-enable Secure Boot.

    Do you see anything about reloading default keys.
    @Caledon Ken,

    Yes I did see something yesterday about reloading default keys. But this is not a menu option setting I changed.
    Let me explain what I mean. I saw a message pertaining to reloading default keys on an entirely different menu in the UEFI menu options. I did not make any change to anything there. I'm talking about an entirely different menu 'tab' that is on the 'Security' menu. I only arrived on the Security menu because I was looking for the Secure boot setting.
    What we're talking about is what is called the option 'Secure Boot Mode Standard' and 'Secure Boot Mode Custom'.

    The (default) Mode is set to Standard. I thought that I had found the setting to disable Secure boot in this menu option. I selected Custom. However, I never saved the change to Custom from the default setting Standard. When I realized this was the wrong setting, I did not save the change. This is when I saw the message about reloading default keys appear. When asked Yes or No, I selected 'No'. I left the Security menu options with the Standard (default) setting still enabled.

    Then I next went to the 'Boot' menu and found the Secure Boot option. This is where the Secure boot has two options. 'Enable' or 'Disable' . I selected 'Disable' saved the setting change and exited out of UEFI settings. It never complained either
    when changing to 'Disable' . This is the 'ONLY change I made in the BIOS/UEFI settings

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    IronZorg89 said:
    I don't know if I understand you correctly, but if one is on "Enabled", the other ought to be on "Disabled". As a matter of fact, "legacy boot" should be put on "Disabled" before putting "Secure boot" on "Enabled".
    @IronZorg89,
    I'm confused just as much. Legacy boot is / was / and always has been disabled. I never saw it complain when I changed Secure boot to 'Disabled' . I just exited the UEFI settings after changing Secure boot to Disable and saved the change.
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  3. Posts : 29,735
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 22H2
       #292

    I've never heard of a Repair install causing a drive not to be present. Not saying it didn't happen just I've never seen it. Is this a production version of Windows of an Insider release?


    Secure Boot.


    It is possible that it has lost its keys when you shut it off. I would reload default keys, then try enabling.


    While getting Secure boot back is nice it is providing very little value in your environment. Chances that someone would have access to boot something is very low. I would hate to see the point where you can't boot. Since the repair install have you created another Image backup?

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...PC%20firmware.


    I'm also thinking that you could just load defaults and exit given you haven't been altering your BIOS. Maybe leave that to last resort.
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  4. Posts : 145
    Windows 10 Home
       #293

    Caledon Ken said:
    I've never heard of a Repair install causing a drive not to be present. Not saying it didn't happen just I've never seen it. Is this a production version of Windows of an Insider release?


    Secure Boot.


    It is possible that it has lost its keys when you shut it off. I would reload default keys, then try enabling.


    While getting Secure boot back is nice it is providing very little value in your environment. Chances that someone would have access to boot something is very low. I would hate to see the point where you can't boot. Since the repair install have you created another Image backup?

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...PC%20firmware.


    I'm also thinking that you could just load defaults and exit given you haven't been altering your BIOS. Maybe leave that to last resort.
    @Caledon Ken,
    The system has never shut down.

    Reload the default keys ? What, do you mean the secure boot keys ? I don't know what this entails. Or do you mean re-set all UEFI settings to default manufacturer settings?
    If you didn't mean that, how does one re-load the default keys ?
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  5. Posts : 29,735
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 22H2
       #294

    In your post (291) you tripped across reload default keys. Re do those steps. and change it from Custom back to what is was. This may have been where issue started. Should have been able to just "Disable" secure boot.


    Yes at the end of my post where I said reload defaults I was referencing reloading all defaults in . Again I don't want you to get to a point where it won't boot.


    In your screen shot of Disk Management I think the first partition stated EFI. I could couldn't read as it was fuzzy.


    I had asked about about a Pic of that BIOS screen. Did you see IronZorg's comment a few psot back.
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  6. Posts : 3,269
    Windows 10 and windows insider
       #295

    Jaguwaar20 said:
    @Caledon Ken,
    The system has never shut down.

    Reload the default keys ? What, do you mean the secure boot keys ? I don't know what this entails. Or do you mean re-set all UEFI settings to default manufacturer settings?
    If you didn't mean that, how does one re-load the default keys ?
    I can't reload anything -- there is no key, there is no hard drive. Secure boot enables with no problem.
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  7. Posts : 145
    Windows 10 Home
       #296

    Caledon Ken said:
    Do you have phone.

    Snap a pic of that screen and post please.


    Apart from changing the secure boot option have you ever changed any other setting other than date time ?
    @Caledon Ken I don't have the software to compress the pic that is 2.8 MB
    the max limit on tenforums uploading a jpeg is 2 MB.
    I'll try another way if I can if there is one
    No I haven't changed 'any' other setting. .nothing, not even date, time, zone

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    Caledon Ken said:
    In your post (291) you tripped across reload default keys. Re do those steps. and change it from Custom back to what is was. This may have been where issue started. Should have been able to just "Disable" secure boot.


    Yes at the end of my post where I said reload defaults I was referencing reloading all defaults in . Again I don't want you to get to a point where it won't boot.


    In your screen shot of Disk Management I think the first partition stated EFI. I could couldn't read as it was fuzzy.


    I had asked about about a Pic of that BIOS screen. Did you see IronZorg's comment a few psot back.
    My post (#291) attempted to explain that I did "trip" across the default keys. However, I didn't 'save' Secure Boot Custom. When asked if I wanted to reload the default keys, I selected 'No' , I then selected Secure Boot Standard, saved and exited the menu. The fact is, after I just re-visited the UEFI menu options when taking a picture, I no longer see the 'Secure Boot Standard' and 'Secure Boot Custom' options anywhere. This menu option must be hidden after the Repair install because I don't see it now.


    What do you want to know about the first partition labled EFI ?

    Yes. I read IronZorg89's comment.
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  8. Posts : 29,735
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 22H2
       #297

    Something is strange, Repair Install does not change BIOS and should have absolutely no access to it.


    Send the picture to another one of you email accounts and send it as medium or small.
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  9. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       #298

    Jaguwaar20 said:
    Let me see if this clarifies what I tried to explain. I tried to change the Secure Boot setting back to the original state of 'Enabled' in BIOS/UEFI. I receive a message though that says Legacy boot is 'Enabled'. Except that right underneath the Secure Boot setting that I selected as 'Enabled' in order to change back to Secure boot (on that same menu tab), Legacy Boot shows that it is 'Disabled'.
    This whole thing doesn't make sense.

    Caledon Ken said:
    Something is strange, Repair Install does not change BIOS and should have absolutely no access to it.
    Agreed - a repair install would not change BIOS/UEFI settings.

    Anyway if Jaguwaar20 can get into Windows, it might help if the posted a screen shot of the "System Information" screen (System summery) as it'll tell us what BIOS mode the PC is in and whether Secure Boot is active. Just type in "system information" into Search and click the system information app to get this....

    KB5000802 CU Windows 10 v2004 build 19041.867 and v20H2 19042.867-system-information.jpg

    This way you know what Windows is saying and can go from there. Ans yes, it would also help to have a screen shot of the BIOS, but....
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  10. Posts : 145
    Windows 10 Home
       #299

    Caledon Ken said:
    Something is strange, Repair Install does not change BIOS and should have absolutely no access to it.


    Send the picture to another one of you email accounts and send it as medium or small.
    @Caledon Ken
    I cropped it down to size. Notice the Legacy Option ROM enabled?

    Attachment 323629



    [EDIT] Another pic before selecting 'Enable' for Secure Boot,
    which promped the warning message
    Attachment 323633
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