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  1.    22 Aug 2015 #291
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Not bitin' Lee. Word wars lead to nothing good.
    Cause Star Ferret said so! No bites from here!!
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  2.    22 Aug 2015 #292

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    After a mixture of clean and upgrade installations, last one from 10240.
    Attachment 33101
    Thanx Mike, that is what we should all have given the edition and corresponding (partial) product key.
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  3.    22 Aug 2015 #293

    Hi there

    It seems therefore that the activation is a GUUID which can be held on the servers with an installation ID - that will give a unique code for every individual computer in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE whether it has identical hardware or not -- so Ms's problem is SOLVED.

    Now what relation the W10 product key has in generating this - who knows --I rather suspect NONE for a FREE update as the keys are the same (at least the W10 ones).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4.    22 Aug 2015 #294
    Join Date : Dec 2013
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    It seems therefore that the activation is a GUUID which can be held on the servers with an installation ID - that will give a unique code for every individual computer in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE whether it has identical hardware or not -- so Ms's problem is SOLVED.

    Now what relation the W10 product key has in generating this - who knows --I rather suspect NONE for a FREE update as the keys are the same (at least the W10 ones).

    Cheers
    jimbo
    It will be interesting to see if you can do the skip key, on a second clean install of a Retail version? And what if you've installed and activated different versions of Windows 10 on the same hardware. I did the free upgrade to 10 Pro on my desktop PC. It's now running Windows 10 Education, installed with my MSDN Retail key. It might be a long while before I do a clean install on this PC though. I can clean install 10 Pro with no key. I'll have to hunt up a spare hard drive to do some testing. It would be nice if entering the key was a one time first time deal.
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  5.    22 Aug 2015 #295
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc

    I imagine if the only way you could get 10 was through the Windows Update service you wouldn't see the screen prompting you for a product key or later the one for changing keys. Everything is automatic once the activation server is connected to during the last portion of the set up right before reaching the desktop for the first time. I know that from not being able to connect via WiFi to the separate router I have set up for the laptop where 10 was prompting for the "guest" connect or the password for the home network.

    At least now I know why only 7 could use the usb WiFi adapter that has to be plugged in while 10 will log on without it! That was seen when upgrading a 7 laptop and now will be checked on the second desktop case used mostly for testing.
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  6.    22 Aug 2015 #296
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    Toronto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    What I don't understand is how some are getting KMS activation (GVLK)... is this due to unofficial ISO's containing an activator perhaps?

    Please post a slmgr /dlv report.
    Here's mine. Everything is the same with @CountMike except I don't see "Evaluation End Date"(?).

    Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	33129
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  7.    22 Aug 2015 #297
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    Quote Originally Posted by badrobot View Post
    Here's mine. Everything is the same with @CountMike except I don't see "Evaluation End Date"(?).

    Click image for larger version. 

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    But yours shows 10240 !
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  8.    22 Aug 2015 #298
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    But yours shows 10240 !

    my point @CountMike is that my other 10240 is set to expire in Jan 22, 2016. They sre both from Preview.
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  9.    22 Aug 2015 #299
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    Think they're picky? Try installing the dvd burning software I have here or some other program where you have to first uninstall and afterwards reinstall it onto some newer version or build with only so many activations available like two or three before you end up having to buy the program all over again! MS has been a bit more lax in that area to a degree over the years. You can see Windows reinstalled endlessly on the same machine over and over and over and ....
    I use Burncdcc without having to worry about how many times it's installed. It's from Terabyte Unlimited.com and they have quite a few freebies. It's older (last updated in 2012), but it gets the job done. For "burning" ISOs to flash drive, I use Rufus, which is also free and doesn't care how many times you use it.

    I've never had the need to use anything else, but then I don't burn audio or video, which I figure is more complicated than what I do.

    The only thing I have that "limits" me are my Nuance programs, but all I have to do is call them and I get more "activations". I just have to tell them I beta test and that I really do need to install that many times.

    <Snip>

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    The activation servers are where the actual record of your one or more machines are kept when keeping track of the hardware profile it reads from each system individually. Once I swap the memory on the second case from the present pair of 2gb dimm for the max there of a pair of 4gb dimms of another brand?

    Ut Oh could spell a need to call into MS? Will know once the memory ordered comes in the middle of next week if the clean install that was activated will remain activated with that change? Previously on the old case built for 7's launch I swapped out memory when the dimms were too high and ended up needing to call into MS.
    I've had to call Microsoft a few times, but have never had to call because I upgraded the RAM. What is nice is that every time I've had to call, I was taken care of in a pleasant manner and got my new activation.

    Guess I'll find out when I finally get the guts to add my SSD drive to this computer.
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  10.    22 Aug 2015 #300

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    It will be interesting to see if you can do the skip key, on a second clean install of a Retail version? And what if you've installed and activated different versions of Windows 10 on the same hardware. I did the free upgrade to 10 Pro on my desktop PC. It's now running Windows 10 Education, installed with my MSDN Retail key. It might be a long while before I do a clean install on this PC though. I can clean install 10 Pro with no key. I'll have to hunt up a spare hard drive to do some testing. It would be nice if entering the key was a one time first time deal.
    Hi there

    If you TEST this -- back up first so you don't lose your current activations(s).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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