Page 16 of 20 FirstFirst ... 61415161718 ... LastLast
  1.    27 Aug 2015 #151
    Join Date : Sep 2014
    Posts : 828
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by fredc View Post
    Anybody who thinks Windows 10 features and app's can just be turned off and no more privacy issues think again , it's a lot worse than people think .

    Read the below :

    http://www.techkhoji.com/windows-10-...-over-your-pc/
    don't believe everything you read lots of lies going around like it deletes pirated games it was a big lie lots of anti MS BS going about read what MS say in the FAQ about privacy
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  2.    27 Aug 2015 #152

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave44 View Post
    don't believe everything you read lots of lies going around like it deletes pirated games it was a big lie lots of anti MS BS going about read what MS say in the FAQ about privacy

    Indeed , thats why i do my research and make sure the info is correct , that info link is accurate i'm afraid . I would like to hear what you know that is definitely not factual .

    The majority of things being posted is easily accessible for anybody to read since MS posted it , the games part i don't care about , it's all the other stuff.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  3.    27 Aug 2015 #153
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    México
    Posts : 234
    Windows 10 x64 Home 1703

    Quote Originally Posted by fredc View Post
    Indeed , thats why i do my research and make sure the info is correct , that info link is accurate i'm afraid . I would like to hear what you know that is definitely not factual .

    The majority of things being posted is easily accessible for anybody to read since MS posted it , the games part i don't care about , it's all the other stuff.
    Well... this is it then... I'm deleting the dreaded VM I got and my account here (nothing against the forum, but I don't need an account if I?m not migrating to Windows 10 as I did with 7)
    No one has the right to restart you PC if you don't want to...

    Are you sure the guy didn't disable remote suppot and access to the PC via System config - > advanced settings? You can prevent MS from dong that... or not?
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  4.    27 Aug 2015 #154

    Quote Originally Posted by FerchogtX View Post
    Well... this is it then... I'm deleting the dreaded VM I got and my account here (nothing against the forum, but I don't need an account if I?m not migrating to Windows 10 as I did with 7)
    No one has the right to restart you PC if you don't want to...

    Are you sure the guy didn't disable remote suppot and access to the PC via System config - > advanced settings? You can prevent MS from dong that... or not?
    I wouldn't make any major decisions yet , give it some time . The link was just to make people aware of how much control MS has over the new Win 10 OS , some people will be bothered more than others about it but i would highly doubt you will ever experience MS taking control of your computer.

    If your a porn aficionado just cover yourself up if sitting in front of the monitor , you don't want Gates watching and observing what your doing if your sitting there in the buff.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  5.    27 Aug 2015 #155
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Pacific Northwest, USA
    Posts : 384
    Win10 x64 Pro -2 desktops, 1 laptop

    Quote Originally Posted by FerchogtX View Post
    Well... this is it then... I'm deleting the dreaded VM I got and my account here (nothing against the forum, but I don't need an account if I?m not migrating to Windows 10 as I did with 7)
    No one has the right to restart you PC if you don't want to...

    Are you sure the guy didn't disable remote suppot and access to the PC via System config - > advanced settings? You can prevent MS from dong that... or not?
    I, too, am bothered by the idea of idea of a remotely invoked reboot. I saw something about that but nothing in detail. Is there a good description of why and when Microsoft might do that? It sort of already does that in older versions with the recurring nag message after manually applying maint that requires a reboot. But that you can put off indefinitely.

    You can always block access to Microsoft ip addresses in a firewall, but eventually you would need to open it up to download maintenance. Is there a way to apply maintenance offline - download it on another PC (maybe running Win7), put it on a portable or shared device, and install it when the Win 10 box cannot reach Microsoft?
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  6.    27 Aug 2015 #156
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 940
    Windows 8.1, Win10Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave44 View Post
    don't believe everything you read lots of lies going around like it deletes pirated games it was a big lie lots of anti MS BS going about read what MS say in the FAQ about privacy
    How do you KNOW that these are actually "lies"? What evidence do you have to support that claim?

    Consider the following extract -- directly from the Microsoft Services Agreement https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/
    We may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices.
    (bold added for emphasis)

    That means MS reserves the right to download software that prevents you from playing counterfeit games. Whether or not that software actually deletes the games is entirely up to MS. But, nonetheless, they are messing around with games you have installed on your PC.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  7.    27 Aug 2015 #157
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    México
    Posts : 234
    Windows 10 x64 Home 1703

    Quote Originally Posted by fredc View Post
    I wouldn't make any major decisions yet , give it some time . The link was just to make people aware of how much control MS has over the new Win 10 OS , some people will be bothered more than others about it but i would highly doubt you will ever experience MS taking control of your computer.

    If your a porn aficionado just cover yourself up if sitting in front of the monitor , you don't want Gates watching and observing what your doing if your sitting there in the buff.
    I don't care if they see my porn, I can share if they feel that lonely... but a remote reboot? WHAT else they can actually do?
    This is becoming a serious security issue as it goes further...
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  8.    27 Aug 2015 #158
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Pacific Northwest, USA
    Posts : 384
    Win10 x64 Pro -2 desktops, 1 laptop

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    How do you KNOW that these are actually "lies"? What evidence do you have to support that claim?

    Consider the following extract -- directly from the Microsoft Services Agreement https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/ (bold added for emphasis)

    That means MS reserves the right to download software that prevents you from playing counterfeit games. Whether or not that software actually deletes the games is entirely up to MS. But, nonetheless, they are messing around with games you have installed on your PC.
    That agreement is for Microsoft Services. I started reading the agreement anyway and got about a third of the way through when I found:
    8. Software License. Unless accompanied by a separate Microsoft license agreement (for example, if you are using a Microsoft application that is included with and a part of Windows, then the Windows Software License Terms govern such software), and except as provided in section 14(b)(i) below for applications available through the Office Store, the Windows Store or the Xbox Store, any software provided by us to you as part of the Services is subject to these Terms.
    So Windows is explicitly excluded from the agreement. And just to be sure, there is a link to a list of "Services":
    Microsoft Services Agreement
    Windows is not included.

    Now, I won't be at all surprised to find the same worrisome wording in the "Windows Software License Terms". After a bit of digging I found that agreement (or at least part of the agreement) at
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Usete...10_English.htm

    I haven't read all of it yet, but a brief scan found "counterfeit" only in reference to checking Windows during activation. (The other agreement's reference to "counterfeit games" was in relation to Xbox as near as I could tell.)

    I do not see anything about agreeing to let Windows collect and send data to Microsoft so I assume there is another agreement somewhere.

    I do see:
    6. Updates. The softwareperiodically checks for system and app updates, and downloads and installs them for you. You may obtain updates only from Microsoft or authorized sources, and Microsoft may need to update your system to provide you with those updates. By accepting this agreement, you agree to receive these types of automatic updates without any additional notice.
    In other words, by accepting the agreement we allow Microsoft to suck dry all the bandwidth of slow speed connections at any time it wants. I'm sure glad I finally got off my slow speed DSL "high speed internet" (Hah!) connection and onto cable. For those still on slow speed lines, too bad; Microsoft doesn't care.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  9.    28 Aug 2015 #159
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Mumbai
    Posts : 31
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64

    @groze - Thank you for the link. I will check and do the needful.

    For one, I'm not concerned about pirated software, hardware or other things, because I do not use any of that. I use legal software and hardware which is as per my country's policies.

    What matters the most to me is privacy - like I mentioned earlier, I use PC for net banking, online shopping, paying bills and routine things. It would not be cool if anyone is spoofing this data out of my pc. That would be one BIG privacy concern for me!

    I assume that most people across the globe would be using their PC for these routine things (bills, banking, shopping, etc), besides games and software. Also, I read that the information is shipped on a non-secure connection. Which makes it even more risky. Identity theft and other such things are going to increase many fold.

    iOS and Android are no different, which is why I do not use any of these features from either. I try to share as little as possible with google, facebook, etc.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  10.    28 Aug 2015 #160

    I have a friend who pirates films, and software. He is having no problems with Windows 10.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


 
Page 16 of 20 FirstFirst ... 61415161718 ... LastLast


Similar Threads
Thread Forum
Bing leads adoption of safe preference for child safety
Source...
Windows 10 News
Our Sites
Site Links
About Us
Windows 10 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 10" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:10.
Find Us
Twitter Facebook Google+ Ten Forums iOS App Ten Forums Android App



Windows 10 Forums