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       #60

    any known issues?>..........
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    Windows 10 Home 64bit 21H1 and insider builds
       #61

    dskiller said:
    any known issues?>..........
    The same ones as 20H1(2004)
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    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #62

    Hi there
    working OK as a VM -- can't see any difference between this and previous version -- presumably there are some though otherwise why release a build !! I'm sure it's not just to generate "pseudo work" for bored developers !!!.

    C'mon Ms --you promised a full linux kernel in the WSL2 with facility for GUI type desktop in the WSL -- I know this is still an ongoing project but what about releasing even a "pre-alpha build" --if it doesn't work ideally -- that's OK --after all this is the purpose of these testing programs surely .

    On some of the other threads there's endless drivel about icons and how the menu has or hasn't changed -- seriously guys that's a trivial bit that could be fixed with more user customiseable bits in the GUI -- why not start going there too -- after all the basic Windows GUI hasn't really changed much over the years in spite of the fact that hardware today is almost "on another galaxy" compared to what was available when these editions of Windows were released.

    Windows 1.01

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    Windows 3.11 (probably the very first "sensible useable" also as a networkable office type Windows) -- I remember it as Windows for Workgroups on a DOS LAN !!! - I think it was Novell who did the networking. It worked for sharing files (word for windows and excel - plus email but was prone to glltches -nothing new there with current Windows networking !!! so that hasn't changed much in 30 odd years.

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    Windows 10 Home 64bit 21H1 and insider builds
       #63

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there
    working OK as a VM -- can't see any difference between this and previous version -- presumably there are some though otherwise why release a build !! I'm sure it's not just to generate "pseudo work" for bored developers !!!.

    C'mon Ms --you promised a full linux kernel in the WSL2 with facility for GUI type desktop in the WSL -- I know this is still an ongoing project but what about releasing even a "pre-alpha build" --if it doesn't work ideally -- that's OK --after all this is the purpose of these testing programs surely .

    On some of the other threads there's endless drivel about icons and how the menu has or hasn't changed -- seriously guys that's a trivial bit that could be fixed with more user customiseable bits in the GUI -- why not start going there too -- after all the basic Windows GUI hasn't really changed much over the years in spite of the fact that hardware today is almost "on another galaxy" compared to what was available when these editions of Windows were released.

    Windows 1.01

    Windows 10 Insider Preview Beta Channel Build 19042.423 (20H2) July 31-windows1.png

    Windows 3.11 (probably the very first "sensible useable" also as a networkable office type Windows) -- I remember it as Windows for Workgroups on a DOS LAN !!! - I think it was Novell who did the networking. It worked for sharing files (word for windows and excel - plus email but was prone to glltches -nothing new there with current Windows networking !!! so that hasn't changed much in 30 odd years.

    Windows 10 Insider Preview Beta Channel Build 19042.423 (20H2) July 31-win311.png


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    jimbo
    Didn't have pre-emptive multi tasking so a rogue program could lock it up completely.
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    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #64

    kado897 said:
    Didn't have pre-emptive multi tasking so a rogue program could lock it up completely.
    Hi there
    By definition surely a rogue program could hose up just about anything --

    however isn't any sensible matured OS (assuming you include Windows in a sensible OS) built in such a manner that it can protect itself against badly written applications -- specialized attacks created deliberately for hacking / other malfeasant purposes excluded -- decent A/V protection helps there - and these days WD is pretty good at that.

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    Windows 10 Home 64bit 21H1 and insider builds
       #65

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there
    By definition surely a rogue program could hose up just about anything --

    however isn't any sensible matured OS (assuming you include Windows in a sensible OS) built in such a manner that it can protect itself against badly written applications -- specialized attacks created deliberately for hacking / other malfeasant purposes excluded -- decent A/V protection helps there - and these days WD is pretty good at that.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    In a pre-emptive multi tasking environment a program doesn't have to voluntarily give control back to the OS as was needed in pre NT windows versions. I worked for years on IBM CICS which is also a cooperative multi tasking environment and it was a big programming problem.
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       #66

    kado897 said:
    In a pre-emptive multi tasking environment a program doesn't have to voluntarily give control back to the OS as was needed in pre NT windows versions. I worked for years on IBM CICS which is also a cooperative multi tasking environment and it was a big programming problem.
    Hi there
    wasnt CICS that thing that if you added a new application (I think it was called a transaction) or even a new user you had to re-start the entire subsystem !!! -- a bit like Vodafone or whoever having to shut its entire network and restart it to add a new subscriber !!!

    Thank goodness days of that type of software are well and truly gone --I remember IBM's IMS DB system --hideous hierarchiacial DB system -- you could wreck the whole system by a simple application program just reading the main DB sequentially BACKWARDS !!!! --thank goodness for MySQL, MariaDB etc / other decent OO technologies and relational DB's !!!. I'm surprised though that Ms haven't replaced ACCESS in the OFFICE suite with something a bit more robust and more multi-user functional.

    In the old days IBM mainframe sysprogs used to hate me -- I could wreck their systems faster than they could repair them !!!.

    For decent Customer ERP type of stuff, B2B , B2C, and all sorts of other business related things SAP for SME's seems the way to go --especially with it's HANA type of products. I think it's now one of the largest companies around after Ms, Amazon, Google. I think there's even a model for quite small businesses as well.

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  8. Posts : 50,055
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 21H1 and insider builds
       #67

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there
    wasnt CICS that thing that if you added a new application or even a new user you had to re-start the entire subsystem !!! -- a bit like Vodafone or whoever having to shut its entire network and restart it to add a new subscriber !!!

    Thank goodness days of that type of software are well and truly gone --I remember IBM's IMS DB system --hideous hierarchiacial DB system -- you could wreck the whole system by a simple application program just reading the main DB sequentially BACKWARDS !!!! --thank goodness for MySQL, MariaDB etc / other decent OO technologies and realtional DB's !!!

    In the old days IBM mainframe sysprogs used to hate me -- I could wreck their systems faster than they could repair them !!!.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Yes you needed to restart CICS for almost any change. I also worked on IMS DB. The real killer was inserting keyed segments in key sequence. It had to read the entire chain to add it to the end. I had a DB conversion that had to be abandoned after two days, a change to a sort order and it completed in a couple of hours.
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  9. Posts : 146
    Windows 11 Pro 64bit (Insider Builds)
       #68

    KB4568831 (Build 19041.423) released as optional update to Windows Update. Also available as Build 19042.423 to Beta Channel from WU.

    KB4568831 Cumulative Update Windows 10 v2004 build 19041.423 - July 31

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4568831
    Last edited by Brink; 31 Jul 2020 at 13:05. Reason: added link
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  10. Posts : 1,490
    Windows 10 Pro x64-bit Build Latest
       #69

    Installed OK!
    But I still have this issue:
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