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  1. Steven Campoli's Avatar
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       #140

    swarfega said:
    @waltc there isnt much time left on the current fast ring. Might as well wait for the next round as the few remaining updates will continue to be small ones.
    Agree, we’re waiting for a new build, I’m hoping tomorrow or day after
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  2. magilla's Avatar
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       #141

    Yes, I hope we get a new build soon!
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  3. martyfelker's Avatar
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       #142

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there

    VMWare does have bi-directional cut and paste -- at least on my Host system -- I assume you mean data from HOST can be pasted into VM and data from VM can be pasted into Host.

    Easy way to test this is to say use snipping tool in Windows VM , copy the image to clipboard, switch to the HOST and then paste into say pictures directory in your /home on the Host.

    I haven't tried with Windows VM on Windows host though. ( I'm Using kernel 5.5.13-arch2-1 so probably we'll see 5.6 possibly sometime soon and maybe even 6.0 although in current situation not sure who would be working on that)

    @martyfelker

    For remote logon to a Windows VM from a Linux Host -- use SSH for command line (enable also on Windows) -- to get the GUI you'll need to enable an "X-server" over SSH -- this is where it gets a bit tricky since there's two methods now in Linux of running X-servers --the older XORG system and the new Wayland system -- I can make it work via XORG but not via Wayland. You can also use KRDP (if using KDE desktop) or an RDP equivalent if using different desktops -- here again Wayland produces unpredictable results.

    For a GUI file transfer though install filezilla on the HOST (access files on the VM via sftp://ipaddress of vm)

    If you can make a GUI logon work via WAYLAND I'd be interested -- XORG is easy enough but it won't be around for long.

    Final note --it's much harder THE OTHER WAY AROUND -- logging on to a remote Linux Host FROM Windows and getting the full GUI desktop -- obviously no problem though using SSH to logon and get command line -- on the HOST though enable root access in the config file if you want to logon to the remote Linux system as root.

    Passing hardware through to a Linux VM created by HYPER-V is a bit "Outside my pay grade" but it's easy enough on KEMU/KVM VM's -- simply in the configuration add your hardware. (You'll need to install any specific hardware drivers too if you want to use the VM to access the OS's (VM itself) passed through hardware e.g Video drivers etc

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    Cheers
    jimbo

    Here's what I want to do. Since Hyper-V runs on Ring 0 of the kernel you cannot directly access most of the host hardware without remotely logging into the guest VM. Not a problem for Windows guests but I haven't figured out how to remote into Linux guest (like I upgraded the built-in Ubuntu 19.10 VM to Ubuntu 20.04). On the other hand VMware runs on Ring 1 and has no problem accessing the host hardware though of course you can also remote into say ESXui VMs etc etc. Running these concurrently is great so I'm saving my money to upgrade to VMware 16 which should come out this fall. I suspect however that they sell the Linux product seperately in which case VMware WS 15.5.2 has never yet failed on the newest kernels (running early 5.7 kernels on Fedora 33 [Rawhid].

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  4. martyfelker's Avatar
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       #143

    The reality is we should not expect any new features until 20H1 (2004) is finally released. They will mostly be looking for feedback on update experience but between WU and UUPDUMP it almost never fails.
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  5. kado897's Avatar
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       #144

    martyfelker said:
    The reality is we should not expect any new features until 20H1 (2004) is finally released. They will mostly be looking for feedback on update experience but between WU and UUPDUMP it almost never fails.
    Fast Ring has nothing to do with the 20H1 release these days, it is not release dependent anymore. That's for the Slow Ring only at the moment.
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  6. Kari's Avatar
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       #145

    waltc said:
    Definitely no one should feel comfortable doing this, I agree!
    I must say I completely disagree! I've got last two UEFI firmware updates through Windows Update, nothing could be easier and simpler. I really like the fact that HP is giving me firmware updates through Windows Update.



    swarfega said:
    @waltc there isnt much time left on the current fast ring. Might as well wait for the next round as the few remaining updates will continue to be small ones.
    I think you have misunderstood something. Fast Ring Insider builds are not about the next version of Windows, version 20H1 (or 2004) released sometime later this spring.

    Fast Ring builds are for build or two beyond that, testing features coming in versions 20H2 late this year and 21H1 coming spring 2021.

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  7. swarfega's Avatar
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       #146

    Thanks for the correction. I always thought that fast meant next release.
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  8. kado897's Avatar
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       #147

    swarfega said:
    Thanks for the correction. I always thought that fast meant next release.
    It used to be, They changed that recently. Fast ring is now experimental, features may or may not make it to release. Slow Ring is now the next release build.
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  9. swarfega's Avatar
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       #148

    I guess hence the renaming format.
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  10. jimbo45's Avatar
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       #149

    Hi there
    I think there's also some confusion as to 20H1 --the next version of VMWare workstation is called 20H1 and is available as a Free trial --expires in Oct for those wanting to play with it. - Windows only version though.


    @martyfelker -- to logon to a Linux VM (or Host) FROM Windows you need to enable an X-Server on Windows (e,g XMING / VMCSERVER or similar) and then you have to allow SSH with an X-server to be active on the Linux VM/Host. This is currently problematic with some desktops that use the WAYLAND system rather than the classical "XORG" system.

    I'm seeing what I can do with a WINDOWS VM on KVM/QEMU -- there's no problem accessing the HOST Linux via command line FROM the Windows VM and things like SAMBA and the odd GUI program work but to get to a full LINUX desktop GUI is something I haven't got working yet -- I'll investigate with some Linux distros as VM's using an older kernel and without WAYLAND entering the fray and see what comes out.

    This used to work (Ubuntu with xrdp / vncserver but I can't get this to work with this build of Windows and current UBUNTU kernel. -- I'm messing around on a WINDOWS Host to avoid any extra complications with VMWare Workstation for the UBUNTU VM. (Ihate the GNOME interface but while testing I'll put up with it).

    How to Establish Remote Desktop Access to Ubuntu From Windows

    Note though when using VMWare for VM's the only physical drivers that work "natively" are done via attaching a device via a USB port . The rest of the system is "Paravirtualised" i.e uses "Virtual Hardware" which is why most of these VM's are "Hardware agnostic" i.e can run on almost any capable computer without configuration changes.

    Things like HYPER-V and KVM/QEMU allow actual physical hardware to be passed through so in the config just add for example the spare graphics card / lan card or whatever. You will then need the Windows (or Linux if the VM is a Linux one) driver(s) for those devices passed straight through. The purpose of things like vmware tools / open-vm-tools is to optimize the virtual graphics / keyboard / mouse for the VM -- this is of course not needed if you are passing through actual hardware including pci cards etc.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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