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  1. Geneo's Avatar
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       #30

    Stigg said:
    Have a read of all the terrible reviews for it.
    I don't see what the big deal is. I am using RST for raided SSD and used this UWP app and it works fine for that purpose, though I don't have any Optane memory. At least one of those negative reviews, that it requires separate hardware and that the description didn't say so, is comical. I think this is a stupid move on Microsoft's part, but not the end of the world.
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  2. JohnBurns's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Version 1909 (Build 18363.815
       #31

    Stigg said:
    Have a read of all the terrible reviews for it.
    FWIW, I have 16GB Optane Memory and switching over to MS App "Intel Optane Management and Storage Managament" has caused no problems for me. I guess I'm lucky. Macrium Reflect also runs well with Optane Memory, adding the necessary drivers for backup, so at this point, it's working. If I had it to do over, I probably wound not choose the configuration with Optane Memory, however, it is fast. It took a while to get here.
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  3. Kbird's Avatar
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       #32

    Stigg said:
    Have a read of all the terrible reviews for it.
    No , but you don't need it if you don't use Raid or have Optane., don't really need it even if you do , even the old RST software was not a requirement or needed.

    the AHCI Driver is still available as a standalone download or Windows Update will replace it if needed too I believe...

    KB
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  4. Kbird's Avatar
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    Win10 202H
       #33

    Cliff S said:
    @Faith, if there is even an IRST/AHCI update update for your system depends on the CPU/chipset you have.
    For my 9900K & Z370 chipset, current is the one on 1st post.
    For my Lenovo with an Intel G3220/H81 chipset the latest is from 2015, and for my laptop with an Intel B960/HM65 chipset the most current IRST is from 2011.
    Same sort of thing here , it is generally accepted eg on WinRaid that it is best to use a RST Driver that is from the same Branch as the onboard Intel Controller Bios Number for best compatibility.... ie the latest is not the greatest when it comes to AHCI Drivers for example 11.2.0.1006 is still one of the best performing RST drivers ever, but on my x99 system the Bios version is 14.7 so I am using the best 14 series driver accord to WinRaid , ie 14.8.18.1006 from 2017.

    Intel Rapid Storage Technology will no longer be updated [EOL] notice-image.png

    **** Forum - Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers

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  5. Posts : 38
    10 2004
       #34

    TV2 said:
    I believe Optane is another animal. AHCI is the Intel SATA driver for Intel chipset motherboards.
    Optane probably needs it's own driver.
    Ah I thought we used this to control that. Going to admit now I have no idea what the relationship between RST and optane memory is on my laptop.

    I have always used the Optane Memory and Storage Management software though and not the EOL ones

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    JohnBurns said:
    FWIW, I have 16GB Optane Memory and switching over to MS App "Intel Optane Management and Storage Managament" has caused no problems for me. I guess I'm lucky. Macrium Reflect also runs well with Optane Memory, adding the necessary drivers for backup, so at this point, it's working. If I had it to do over, I probably wound not choose the configuration with Optane Memory, however, it is fast. It took a while to get here.
    WRT Macrium are you talking about creating a recovery USB? I'm a little concerned that having Optane on (I've turned it off for now) is going to make restoring my backups or potentially even accessing my C drive from a recovery environment difficult.
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  6. Stigg's Avatar
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       #35

    Kbird said:
    No , but you don't need it if you don't use Raid or have Optane., don't really need it even if you do , even the old RST software was not a requirement or needed.

    the AHCI Driver is still available as a standalone download or Windows Update will replace it if needed too I believe...

    KB
    I just built a high end system and didn't even consider Optane.
    Is it very popular?
    It is very useful?
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  7. Kbird's Avatar
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    Win10 202H
       #36

    Stigg said:
    I just built a high end system and didn't even consider Optane.
    Is it very popular?
    It is very useful?
    Optane Memory : No not really as it is basically a 16MB or 32MB Disk Cache for HDDs ( spinners)

    Optane SSDs : are very fast but are also very expensive ( newer memory type) and not a 1st choice for most Consumers.

    KB
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  8. Geneo's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Retail 21H1
       #37

    Kbird said:
    Same sort of thing here , it is generally accepted eg on WinRaid that it is best to use a RST Driver that is from the same Branch as the onboard Intel Controller Bios Number for best compatibility.... ie the latest is not the greatest when it comes to AHCI Drivers for example 11.2.0.1006 is still one of the best performing RST drivers ever, but on my x99 system the Bios version is 14.7 so I am using the best 14 series driver accord to WinRaid , ie 14.8.18.1006 from 2017.
    KB
    I don't think it is that important, though there is a slight chance it could be. It could only matter if you are booting windows from a raided device, since once windows is booting, the RST EFI/OROM firmware in the BIOS is no longer relevant. The RST BIOS firmware is only necessary to provide a raided disk volume to boot windows from. Once windows boots, it installs the Windows RST drivers and the BIOS EFI drivers are no longer used. So it can only be important in that handoff - if it boots, there are no issues.

    You do need to use the RST major version appropriate for your chipset (e.g. 17,x, 16.x,...14.x) for both the BIOS/OROM and Windows drivers though.
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  9. Posts : 111
    Windows 10
       #38

    My new HP laptop came with 16 GB Intel Optane Memory and it's all new to me. I think the Optane Management software was installed by the manufacturer from the Microsoft Store. The version is 17.9.1006.0. I can't tell if that is what is offered in the store though. It only tells me that it's already installed. Can someone clear this up for me please?
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  10. JohnBurns's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Version 1909 (Build 18363.815
       #39

    ........WRT Macrium are you talking about creating a recovery USB? I'm a little concerned that having Optane on (I've turned it off for now) is going to make restoring my backups or potentially even accessing my C drive from a recovery environment difficult.
    My setup is: Aspire TC-885-ACCFLi5O Desktop, 8th Gen Intel Core i5-8400, 8GB DDR4 + 16GB Optane Memory, 1TB HDD,
    Macrium Reflect Version Home Edition 7.2.4952 [UEFI] (64-bit), Windows 10 Version 2004 (Build 19041.329). I have been making backups and restoring them from recovery usb disk or from Macrium boot menu without turning off Optane Memory and having no problems. MR adds necessary drivers automatically. It really presents no problem for me at this point.

    Also, to defragment my C disk HDD only, I use DOS defragment, (not Windows 10 Defragment) without turning off Optane Memory and that works too. (Administrative Command Prompt "defrag C: /U"). So I rarely turn off Optane Memory, but if I do, the Windows Store App Intel Optane Memory and Management works fine. BTW, since I only have 16GB Optane Memory, I am not getting any pinning errors in Windows 10 2004 - I think the pinning errors are only if you have 32 GB or more Optane Memory.
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