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  1. Joined : Aug 2015
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    windows 10
       18 Aug 2015 #111

    owensdj said: View Post
    I doubt that was caused by bugs in Windows 10. Most likely it's caused by problems due to doing an in-place upgrade. Try a fresh reinstall of Windows 10. Of course you need to do a fresh reinstall after an in-place upgrade to get it for free.
    Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. What is the difference between an "in place install" and a "fresh reinstall"..???
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  2. Joined : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro x64
       18 Aug 2015 #112

    over60 said: View Post
    Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. What is the difference between an "in place install" and a "fresh reinstall"..???
    In-place upgrade means the install keeps the programs and other things installed from your previous operating system. Fresh reinstall means everything gets wiped out and Windows 10 is installed completely fresh. Many times you'll have problems with an upgraded install that can be fixed by a fresh install. I was also pointing out that to get the upgrade to Windows 10 for free you must do an in-place upgrade first. After that you can choose to do a fresh reinstall of Windows 10. A fresh reinstall is more work, but it's worth it.
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  3. Joined : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 15007
       18 Aug 2015 #113

    over60 said: View Post
    Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. What is the difference between an "in place install" and a "fresh reinstall"..???
    I think what owensdj means is that you should try a "real" clean install after the "imperfect" upgrade. You may then get a "perfect" Windows 10 afterward. Why not try it? It's not going to cost you anything except "time"!
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  4. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 139
    Tried 10 Returned to 8.1
       18 Aug 2015 #114

    jyusa said: View Post
    I think what owensdj means is that you should try a "real" clean install after the "imperfect" upgrade. You may then get a "perfect" Windows 10 afterward. Why not try it? It's not going to cost you anything except "time"!
    Sure, for those that have done a Clean Install before it's probably a walk in the park because they likely already know where to find all the drivers they will need but for someone who has never done it before it is likely a very daunting task.
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  5. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 441
    Windows 10
       18 Aug 2015 #115

    For me personally after spending the first cpl days working my way around it and shutting off what I would never use such as apps and cortana, getting rid of that tiles thing there is nothing new here that would interest me. As per performance it runs pretty much on par with my previous windows 7 I can still can be on a google page in chrome within 13secs from the initial loading operating system screen, it runs all of my apps no problem I don't think it's any faster than my windows 7 but it is certainly no slower.
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  6. Joined : Apr 2014
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       18 Aug 2015 #116

    owensdj said: View Post
    I doubt that was caused by bugs in Windows 10. Most likely it's caused by problems due to doing an in-place upgrade. Try a fresh reinstall of Windows 10. Of course you need to do a fresh reinstall after an in-place upgrade to get it for free.
    Well now you have touched on what is the primary reason why most who are seeing problems with 10 still haven't realized that the initial upgrade could well have not being seeing everything go on as it should as well as bringing along any other previous problems and now seeing those come to the surface. Even with a clean install of the previous version right before the upgrade you can run into any number of similar issues of things simply not working as they should.

    But this is how MS is now going to be handling things where you first upgrade over which can trash the existing installation and then see to a fresh clean install once the activation servers have a record so you won't have to worry about calling in to see 10 activated from that point on unless there's some other problem.

    gator2013 said: View Post
    Sure, for those that have done a Clean Install before it's probably a walk in the park because they likely already know where to find all the drivers they will need but for someone who has never done it before it is likely a very daunting task.
    The first thing anyone should be saying is "First back up everything you want to keep!" whenever going to tell someone to see a clean install of any version or OS in fact! I've had a few occasions over the years where even clean installs landed me in a world of hurt when something didn't go right the first time around and you had to go back and start all over again! But that is how you learn by gaining first hand experience and fortunately there are some excellent guides here to go by when in those years past I had to do it without any! Windows 10 - Clean Install - Windows 10 Forums[2]=Installation%20and%20Setup
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  7. Joined : May 2015
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    Tried 10 Returned to 8.1
       19 Aug 2015 #117

    No way of knowing what % of PC users don't create original backup when they first get their device but I bet it's huge. Moving forward I would imagine most of those same users don't have much of a backup in place if any at all much less maintaining their equipment. I am afraid many of these users are in for a rude awakening if they proceed with this in-place upgrade without any preparation unless the download and process gets more refined as time goes by.
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  8.    19 Aug 2015 #118

    gator2013 said: View Post
    Sure, for those that have done a Clean Install before it's probably a walk in the park because they likely already know where to find all the drivers they will need but for someone who has never done it before it is likely a very daunting task.
    Yes it is , especially the drivers part . I would bet the house that the vast majority of computer users who upgrade to Win 10 will probably never clean install and i would also bet the typical citizen doesn't have a clue how to go about it and will never do it.

    Most i know use the computer for extremely basic stuff and have zero interest in learning about how to do tech stuff.

    Bazz said: View Post
    For me personally after spending the first cpl days working my way around it and shutting off what I would never use such as apps and cortana, getting rid of that tiles thing there is nothing new here that would interest me. As per performance it runs pretty much on par with my previous windows 7 I can still can be on a google page in chrome within 13secs from the initial loading operating system screen, it runs all of my apps no problem I don't think it's any faster than my windows 7 but it is certainly no slower.
    I agree 100% , i find Windows 10 very bothersome due to the ridiculous amounts of things they include by default to try to intrude on your privacy . The fact that they make it harder than it needs to be to uninstall a lot of the stuff is outrageous .

    I find it about even with Win 7 as far as speed as well , after spending more time with it , i dislike a lot more of it then i like thats for sure.

    I will never use a good 70% of what it comes with i know that .
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  9. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 441
    Windows 10
       19 Aug 2015 #119

    fredc said: View Post
    Yes it is , especially the drivers part . I would bet the house that the vast majority of computer users who upgrade to Win 10 will probably never clean install and i would also bet the typical citizen doesn't have a clue how to go about it and will never do it.

    Most i know use the computer for extremely basic stuff and have zero interest in learning about how to do tech stuff.



    I agree 100% , i find Windows 10 very bothersome due to the ridiculous amounts of things they include by default to try to intrude on your privacy . The fact that they make it harder than it needs to be to uninstall a lot of the stuff is outrageous .

    I find it about even with Win 7 as far as speed as well , after spending more time with it , i dislike a lot more of it then i like thats for sure.

    I will never use a good 70% of what it comes with i know that .
    I don't in essence I don't dislike it however for none savy pc users that just use windows 7 to do what they do there are no benefits to this upgrade. I'm gonna keep it just because I like to be current and it does what I need it to do. I also agree that it was bothersome to get rid of the chit and make it more private, it's new and it's also not just made for desktops like I run, I'm not interested in twitter or facebook or xbox or all that tiles thing, to go along with that cortana taking up 20% or whatever it was of my CPU on start up. Maybe MS should bring out a desktop version it would only be a 1gb file and leave the tablet chit out.
    Last edited by Bazz; 19 Aug 2015 at 01:05.
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  10. Joined : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 15007
       19 Aug 2015 #120

    Bazz said: View Post
    I don't in essence dislike it however for none savy pc users that just use windows 7 to do what they do there are no benefits to this upgrade. I'm gonna keep it just because I like to be current and it does what I need it to do. I also agree that it was bothersome to get rid of the chit and make it more private, it's new and it's also not just made for desktops like I run, I'm not interested in twitter or facebook or xbox all that chit had to go along with that cortana taking up 20% or whatever it was of my CPU on start up. Maybe MS should bring out a desktop version it would only be a 1gb file and leave the tablet chit out.
    I'm sure you will be able to disable features you don't want when Windows 10 matured at a little later. I'd choose want I like to stay with me at the time.
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