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  1. Posts : 1,484
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       #50

    I loved Windows 7, and it did take me three different attempts with Windows 10 before I would stay with it, I would end up back on 7, but now I am used to 10, and really like it.
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  2. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #51

    Hi folks

    If you don't want all that advertising -- either stick to Horse Racing or Linux !!! -- These companies like Ms do at least provide loads of jobs, and also provide reasonably safe investment platforms which many people benefit from as they retire in the form of pension funds etc etc.

    Any business needs a certain amount of "Selling / Pitching" and seed money to operate -- even one man "bands" if they want to sell anything have to make themselves and the product known.

    personally I haven't found W10 itself riddled with Ads -- maybe some of the 3rd party software is - but you don't have to install it and you can totally ignore / delete any of those hideous modern UWL Mobile phone type apps too.

    Things like Google are far more pernicious in their use of personal data gleaned from people's use of computers -- and that can be totally OS independent as google is used on phones, tablets, macs, windows and Linux platforms anyway.

    There are things wrong with W10 but so do other OS'es have flaws as well. On the whole W10 works perfectly OK.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3. Posts : 7,724
    3-Win-7Prox64 3-Win10Prox64 3-LinuxMint20.2
       #52

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi folks

    If you don't want all that advertising -- either stick to Horse Racing or Linux !!! -- These companies like Ms do at least provide loads of jobs, and also provide reasonably safe investment platforms which many people benefit from as they retire in the form of pension funds etc etc.

    Any business needs a certain amount of "Selling / Pitching" and seed money to operate -- even one man "bands" if they want to sell anything have to make themselves and the product known.

    personally I haven't found W10 itself riddled with Ads -- maybe some of the 3rd party software is - but you don't have to install it and you can totally ignore / delete any of those hideous modern UWL Mobile phone type apps too.

    Things like Google are far more pernicious in their use of personal data gleaned from people's use of computers -- and that can be totally OS independent as google is used on phones, tablets, macs, windows and Linux platforms anyway.

    There are things wrong with W10 but so do other OS'es have flaws as well. On the whole W10 works perfectly OK.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Hi,
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  4. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #53

    ThrashZone said:
    Hi there
    I'm not sure if I need someone in N.Korea for example controlling the temperature I have my house set at or hosing up "automatic food ordering" from an Internet connected fridge -- might suite some but that's a step too far for me (at least in this current time).

    I still though don't think Ms really will be as bad with this data -- people suffer far worse if those credit reporting companies (Experian etc) make just a tiny error on someone's credit record --then they'll find it impossible to get credit cards, mobile phone contracts, mortgages, car loans etc etc. --Just imagine being on a contract in the USA and having to pay cash in Hotels etc -- some (most apart from those "sleezy By the Hour" places) won't take cash, you certainly won't get any car rental and even a load of Bars now only take card payments. Identity theft and fraud can easily get you marked totally innocently with bad credit on those companies records and you might never know it until you suddenly find your bank cards stop working etc etc.

    Personally I'd go much more for limiting the power of THOSE companies first before worrying about Ms --Ms making a mistake won't damage people's lives significantly -- some of those financial credit checking companies can and there's almost zero recourse in the courts to redress the balance.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. Posts : 7,724
    3-Win-7Prox64 3-Win10Prox64 3-LinuxMint20.2
       #54

    Hi,
    Yeah well only MS turned on buried advanced update setting turning peoples machines and internet access into ms servers to help push win-10 iso's and updates out to the general public without telling them in detail.

    Switching these advanced setting to their own network was way later.
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  6. Posts : 1,191
    Windows 11 Pro x64
       #55

    swarfega said:
    7 was good for the time and I enjoyed using it, but times change and 10 is a better performer.
    ^This
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  7. Posts : 228
    win10 20H2
       #56

    Just put W10 on my other machine, was going to stick w/ W7 cos I love it and it basically has played flawlessly all these years, but I ended up deciding I was just being nostalgic. I think W10 is good, but the amount of changing and deleting bloat is tiresome. It also decided to lock the Start button for me, just wouldn't respond at all until I got into Task Manager and did a restart of Explorer.

    couple of quick questions, now that i'm getting more serious about using W10, if they should be elsewhere please LMK and i'll repost.
    1) On installing this, and sorting out the update issues I had on my other W10 machine, I was told to remove Malwarebyte and NOD32 - is it the general feeling now that I can do w/out NOD32 and stick w/ Windows Defender, and keep Malwarebytes? I just have the free version of that, so I think i'll invest in a paid version.
    2) Where are the best guides to set-up W10 to stop as much telemetry as possible, get rid of unnecessary bloat/apps etc?

    I haven't really looked into all this as Win10 was originally just on my 2nd machine which I don't use much, but given it's my OS of choice [kinda, lol] it's about time I looked into setting it up a bit better.

    TIA

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    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there

    In what way is W10 troublesome --"Chapter and Verse" please.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I haven't used it much (as per my other post) but the things that annoy me are the telemetry thing, and updates. The telemetry, I've read various stuff about what it sends and i'm a bit leery of it - "unhappy but accepting" I guess you'd say, as I understand some of what is sent. Updates, I don't like that it just grabs whatever and doesn't let me know, or pick. both of these are an issue for me because I have an absolutely rubbish internet connection, barely 3mbs, and they both choke bandwidth down to virtually nothing, meaning I can't browse until it's finished doing what it's doing, and some updates can be hefty in size. As an example, it previous has started downloading an nVidia driver that was about 450meg, and I didn't want it to. I don't game etc so the one that came w/ the card was fine and suited me quite happily, and though i'd get the odd pop-up from nVid Control Centre saying there was a new update, I just ignored it.
    so, if there are any tips or guides about tweaking/optimising the telemetry and updates stuff, i'd appreciate a link.
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  8. Posts : 7,254
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #57

    You don't need both, it's tying down resources and they may fight with each other. A lot of us here use Defender with Malwarebytes.

    What are you worried about with telemetry. It's mostly things like which apps you use and how long for, that sort of stats.
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  9. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #58

    swarfega said:
    You don't need both, it's tying down resources and they may fight with each other. A lot of us here use Defender with Malwarebytes.

    What are you worried about with telemetry. It's mostly things like which apps you use and how long for, that sort of stats.
    Hi there
    even Malwarebytes these days is unnecessary --what on earth has Malwarebytes showed recently (especially the free version) that WD with the real time protection active hasn't been able to.

    Protection in W10 is good and getting better almost weekly --new offerings are based on the very robust enterprise level of protection in Ms's Azur cloud service.

    A lot of the old 3rd party A/V's are baseed on last century's threats and protection level (W7 for example didn't have any sensible robust A/V protection in it --you needed a 3rd party solution --with W10 --Not any more).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. Posts : 134
    Windows 10 Pro INSIDER
       #59

    My 3 cents, I liked 7 but 10 works smoother/faster for me, I got tired of all the updates with 7.

    But I also dislike all the Apps/craps with 10, it's ok provided you don't activate or use these Apps....just more bloatware, why cant there be an easy delete of them?

    I am flabbergasted when I hear of the many companies worldwide who still get hacked or threats because some were/are still using XP or now 7.
    To me it is strange that company IT Departments are not demanding OS changes, one would think it is in their best interest to budget for platform upgrades.

    And agree W-Defender is all you need for domestic use, Avast, Norton are just not necessary.
    RIP W7
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