Perspective: If Windows 8 = Vista, what's Microsoft's next move?
Posted: 28 Jan 2014
Computerworld - GREGG KEIZER It's a low rumble here, there, like a thunderstorm barely heard because it's so far over the horizon that only the cloud tops can be seen, but the words "Windows 8 is Vista" are starting to leave lips and paint pixels.
And that has to scare the you-know-what out of Microsoft.
Because to Microsoft, Vista is the ******* child of the Windows family, the one who lost friends' savings in a Ponzi scheme, then fled to Bhutan and its mountains, beyond reach by extradition.
For my Recording Studio application, Win 8.1 works equally well as Win 7. I recently had to send the Windows 7 motherboard in for warranty repair. I set up my back up system which has Win 8.1 64 bit for Recoding. I have Start8 installed so it boots directly to the desktop and absolutely no difference. All my hardware installed without problems. However I did have to install one older device in a Vista Compatibility mode.
But going back to Microsoft's more or less record of hits and misses on Operating Systems, Win 98SE was good, Windows ME was not, Win XP was, Vista was not, Windows 7 was good, Win 8 for many is not good, so Win 9 should be a "good" OS.
Computer Type: PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number: MSI Aegis OS: Win 11 CPU: i7 13700F Motherboard: MSI B660M-A Memory: 32GB Graphics Card: NVIDIA 3060 Sound Card: Realtek Monitor(s) Displays: 27" LG Screen Resolution: 1920X1080 Keyboard: MSI Mouse: MSI PSU: 650 Gold Plus Case: MSI Cooling: MSI Hard Drives: MSI 1Tb M.2 2280 NVMe for Win 11
2TB conventional drive for recording projects and backup Internet Speed: 400 Mb/sec downlink Browser: Edge , Firefox Antivirus: Windows Defender Other Info: Recording Studio using Cakewalk (Sonar) and Studio One 4.6Pro. MOTU Ultralite MK5 recording interface unit.
Computer Type: Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number: Dell Inspiron 15 5577 OS: Win 10 Home CPU: 7th gen i5 Motherboard: Dell Memory: 8 GB Graphics Card: NVIDIA Sound Card: Realtek Monitor(s) Displays: Dell Screen Resolution: 1920X1080 Keyboard: Dell Mouse: Logitech PSU: Dell Case: Dell Cooling: Dell Hard Drives: 250GB SSD Internet Speed: 100Mb/sec downlink Browser: Edge Antivirus: Windows Defender Other Info: Recording studio DAW PC. NVIDIA is disabled and Intel CPU Video used when using recording studio apps due to Latency dropouts.
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I'm sorry for braking this open I know its a old thread but I just had something to say. Why would anyone say any of those were a bad os? When I had them they were pretty good or at least I think so.
Computer Type: Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number: HP 17- Ca1065cl OS: Windows 10 Home version 20H2 64bit OS Build 19042.1023 CPU: Ryzen5 3500U Memory: 12GB Graphics Card: AMD Radeon Vega Screen Resolution: 1600 x 900 Mouse: iHome Wireless Hard Drives: 1 TB Internet Speed: Charter Spectrum Cable WiFi Browser: Microsoft Edge Antivirus: Norton 360
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Well I found window 95 was a nightmare in the beginning, ME was a nightmare I put in on one computer and took it off in a week. For me the first really good Windows was 2000. it took quite a bit to get me to upgrade to XP and again to Windows 7, I had one notebook with Vista it wasn't so bad. Windows 8 I didn't try 8.1 I have and find it good as 7 and 2000. Following the 8 forum by the time I moved any computer to 8.1 I knew about Classic Shell and how to set up with a Local Account instead of the Microsoft account. So I find 8.1 as good as any MS OS, I have moved one Desktop to 10 Pro and will move my main business computer to 10 Pro soon. I don't like some of the 10 features Updates for one and having to continually check my hardware drivers as the MS ones cause problems for me. Seems MS just wants us to use there generic ones and keeps installing them with updates.
I don't think 8 or 8.1 were 95 or ME or Vista at all. Once you learned to get around all the Metro crap and one drive and other cloud stuff its as good as any versions were.
Computer Type: PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number: Asus Z97Pro OS: Win 10 pro Upgraded from 8.1 CPU: Core I7 4790K Motherboard: Asus Z97 Pro Memory: 16 GB DDR3-1600 / PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM UDIMM Graphics Card: EVGA e-GeForce GT 740 4 GB Sound Card: RealTec ALC1150 Monitor(s) Displays: Asus 23" Screen Resolution: 1080 Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Mouse: Logitech Wireless PSU: 650 Case: Coolmaster HAF Cooling: Prolimatech Megahalems 1 120CM Fan pulling Hard Drives: SSD 860 Samsung EVO SSD
2 WD Black 1 TB
1 WD Green 3 TB Internet Speed: 200 Mbps Down and 10 Mbps Up Browser: Chrome Antivirus: NIS and Malwarebyes Pro Other Info: This is the computer I experiment with very little critical data
Back up is Paid Version Macrium Reflect Images and File and Folder backups.
I drive real time back up to the Cloud
Norton IS
Malwarebytes Pro
Computer Type: Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number: Dell Inspiron 7386 2-in-1 OS: Native 64 Windows 10 upgrded to Pro CPU: i7-8565U Motherboard: Dell Memory: 2x 8 GB Graphics Card: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 Sound Card: Realtek Audio Intel(R) Display Audio Monitor(s) Displays: 13.3 Screen Resolution: 1020 X 1080 Mouse: Logitec MX Anywhere 2 Hard Drives: SSD 0, OS Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB
SSD 1 BC501 NVMe SK Hynix 512GB Internet Speed: 200Mbs down 10 Mbs up Cable Spectrum Browser: New Edge Antivirus: Norton/Malwarebytes Other Info: Recently i have just given up on IE 11, Now my default Browser is New Edge, I still have IE11 as back up for any web sites that won't work on Edge
Computer Type: PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number: Late 2015 iMac 27" OS: macOS Sierra, Windows 10 Pro CPU: i7-6700K Memory: 32GB DDR3 2133MHz Graphics Card: AMD Radeon R9 M395X Monitor(s) Displays: 27" iMac Screen Resolution: 5120x2880 Keyboard: Apple magic keyboard Mouse: Apple mouse 2 Hard Drives: Apple 256GB PCIe NVME SSD for macOS
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB for Windows 10 Internet Speed: 105 up, 15 down Browser: Safari, Chrome
Computer Type: PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number: Asus Z97Pro OS: Win 10 pro Upgraded from 8.1 CPU: Core I7 4790K Motherboard: Asus Z97 Pro Memory: 16 GB DDR3-1600 / PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM UDIMM Graphics Card: EVGA e-GeForce GT 740 4 GB Sound Card: RealTec ALC1150 Monitor(s) Displays: Asus 23" Screen Resolution: 1080 Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Mouse: Logitech Wireless PSU: 650 Case: Coolmaster HAF Cooling: Prolimatech Megahalems 1 120CM Fan pulling Hard Drives: SSD 860 Samsung EVO SSD
2 WD Black 1 TB
1 WD Green 3 TB Internet Speed: 200 Mbps Down and 10 Mbps Up Browser: Chrome Antivirus: NIS and Malwarebyes Pro Other Info: This is the computer I experiment with very little critical data
Back up is Paid Version Macrium Reflect Images and File and Folder backups.
I drive real time back up to the Cloud
Norton IS
Malwarebytes Pro
Computer Type: Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number: Dell Inspiron 7386 2-in-1 OS: Native 64 Windows 10 upgrded to Pro CPU: i7-8565U Motherboard: Dell Memory: 2x 8 GB Graphics Card: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 Sound Card: Realtek Audio Intel(R) Display Audio Monitor(s) Displays: 13.3 Screen Resolution: 1020 X 1080 Mouse: Logitec MX Anywhere 2 Hard Drives: SSD 0, OS Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB
SSD 1 BC501 NVMe SK Hynix 512GB Internet Speed: 200Mbs down 10 Mbs up Cable Spectrum Browser: New Edge Antivirus: Norton/Malwarebytes Other Info: Recently i have just given up on IE 11, Now my default Browser is New Edge, I still have IE11 as back up for any web sites that won't work on Edge
Agree with you. Vista was not THAT bad. The problem was the amount of requirements, or the lack of them on the computers those days. I got a Packard Bell with Vista back in 2010, I think, and it was good. I got the 7 update quickly too -because all the upgrade promo back in the day-. But Vista was fine at that moment. Of course, 7 ended up being much better.
Just for the record: that computer is still alive, and upgraded to 10, having been running 8 and 8.1 too.
Hmm, I guess you weren't around for earlier version windows 2000 was as monumental as SSD are today.
98 was my first Windows, then XP, and then Vista. 98 was pretty terrible, XP not much better and I still don't understand how some people don't seem to move on from it.
I don't remember ever having a crash or BSOD in Vista or later Windows.
Computer Type: PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number: Late 2015 iMac 27" OS: macOS Sierra, Windows 10 Pro CPU: i7-6700K Memory: 32GB DDR3 2133MHz Graphics Card: AMD Radeon R9 M395X Monitor(s) Displays: 27" iMac Screen Resolution: 5120x2880 Keyboard: Apple magic keyboard Mouse: Apple mouse 2 Hard Drives: Apple 256GB PCIe NVME SSD for macOS
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB for Windows 10 Internet Speed: 105 up, 15 down Browser: Safari, Chrome