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Same problem with AMD graphics on shutdown....Live videos working properly....YouTube also.
New Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast+Skip Build 18999 (20H1) - Oct. 8 Insider
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New #121
Hi folks
@dencal
I tested again --this time disabling the PCI graphics card and using the standard internal VGA graphics on the mobo -- worked OK but using VGA at 640 X 480 on large screens is not something I think one needs not to want to do often --note this device is a server so these things are designed to be normally run headless or in text mode (no GUI) -- or at least from an external device such as a remote laptop etc. In text mode of course the server built in vga is OK which is why it was there in the first place. However there was a place for an additional pci card on this server so that's where I installed a graphics card which was fine until this latest Windows build.
So to Windows developers --have a look at the ahcp / power control things and graphics areas of kernels.
I don't think it's only a problem though with Windows -- some of the latest Linux kernels also have problems in this area -- a get around to those using Linux Hosts and Windows VMs is to forget the NVIDIA etc drivers and use the Nouveau generic ones, also avoid MESA/DRI which controls 3D, hardware acceleration etc etc, and use xorg instead of wayland for main video driver.
Seems in these issues Windows isn't unique in having these problems
Is it hardware is just too complex these days or were the previous generation better developers -- now that's surely going to throw gasoline on to the fire !!!!.
Cheers
jimbo
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New #122
One of the problems with trying to figure out (can't even call it debug) this or analogous problems it that there is no way that I know that an ordinary, or even extraordcinary, can see behind the shutdown screen as one can in Linux by a quick edit of the grub.cfg file. At least we'd know which service is hanging. Microsoft could open-source the Windows kernel - but then it wouldn't be Microsoft would it? BTW I don't think the video drivers are the culprit as the shutdown hang occurs in VMware VMs, with or without VMware Tools installed.
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New #124
I have not yet tried it with VBox. I will try it after I update another VM to 18999. I do have confidence that thely probably have solved this problem already - we will see if we get a new build this week. But they might not even mention the fix in the release notes - have they acknowledged it anywhere?
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New #126
The shutdown or restart problem appears in the list of known issues.
Most likely the fix will not be in the next build.
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New #128
Hi there
what video cards etc do you have
some of these problems do actually relate to the video drivers
I'm sure though these will get fixed
what's surprising is how little problems there are in the 1909 soon to be RP'd 418 Windows build. Not a smidgen of a problem there. (Either native or as a VM on either Linux or W7 host).
Cheers
jimbo
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