New Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast+Skip Build 18956 (20H1) - August 7 Insider

f14tomcat · 11 Aug 2019

smactilactus said:

I think you missed my point. I'm not talking about my own pathway to or from something. I'm speaking about someone else's. Like when I see someone post a screenshot of them in settings somewhere, I can see the title of where they are, but I often have no idea how they got to that screen. So if I want to go check it out, being that settings is extremely convoluted, it's a long trial and error session. Where as if someone shows a screenshot of them in a particular folder, I can see the roadmap at the top of the window of how they got there. I hope that helps make it more clear. Still sounds convoluted to me... Lol.

I understand where you're coming from. That's why when I post some Settings thing, I try to remember to simulate a path, such as

Settings>Storage>Configure Storage Sense
to get here:

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Edwin · 11 Aug 2019

Or...

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AndreTen · 11 Aug 2019

smactilactus said:

I think you missed my point. I'm not talking about my own pathway to or from something. I'm speaking about someone else's. Like when I see someone post a screenshot of them in settings somewhere, I can see the title of where they are, but I often have no idea how they got to that screen. So if I want to go check it out, being that settings is extremely convoluted, it's a long trial and error session. Where as if someone shows a screenshot of them in a particular folder, I can see the roadmap at the top of the window of how they got there. I hope that helps make it more clear. Still sounds convoluted to me... Lol.

If you see a picture of a page in settings... click start and type it. It'll get you to the correct page (most of the time). But agree with TC.. path is nice to add to the picture of it.

johngalt · 11 Aug 2019

smactilactus said:

I think you missed my point. I'm not talking about my own pathway to or from something. I'm speaking about someone else's. Like when I see someone post a screenshot of them in settings somewhere, I can see the title of where they are, but I often have no idea how they got to that screen. So if I want to go check it out, being that settings is extremely convoluted, it's a long trial and error session. Where as if someone shows a screenshot of them in a particular folder, I can see the roadmap at the top of the window of how they got there. I hope that helps make it more clear. Still sounds convoluted to me... Lol.

Ahhh, I completely missed that you were talking about screenshots. I thought you meant on the live system. Hence the confusion on my part. Sorry!

f14tomcat said:

I understand where you're coming from. That's why when I post some Settings thing, I try to remember to simulate a path, such as

Settings>Storage>Configure Storage Sense
to get here:

Ayup - that is what I *try* to do every time, as I have to post directions not only for Windows P related posts, but also Android, and a slew of other things that I test. Even then, though, I forget to sometimes...

Edwin said:

Or...

I sometimes use screenshots, but I don't take the time to concatenate them into a single one, usually posting them as individual screenshots in a list of steps. Otherwise, I go for Tom's method.

AndreTen said:

If you see a picture of a page in settings... click start and type it. It'll get you to the correct page (most of the time). But agree with TC.. path is nice to add to the picture of it.

I was also going to post this - that seems to work, as many times as I have tried it.

johngalt · 11 Aug 2019

dencal said:

My original post.
Rather a trite post....surely any person enrolling on the Insider program would be interested enough to report any bugs encountered without being lectured.

As this referred to Members on Ten forums....I cannot recall a single post confirming they were not interested in using feedback hub.

If you are referring to those in the outside world then your above statement contradicts
as to where you get your information from.

GL!

[/QUOTE]

And can you point to the exact number of posts where people have come in here and stated that they have a problem, and then posted back that they even posted the error / information to FB Hub at all, much less linking to the posted feedback to garner support?

Yeah, I thought so.

Consider me trite all you want - my opinion stands and I'm not changing it on your words.

Oh, and one more thing - the survey that Brink linked to *also* asks, as one of the questions, if you have recently submitted feedback. I guess M$ is trite too.

johngalt · 11 Aug 2019

Brink said:

New Weekly Windows 10 Insider Program Pulse Survey - Aug. 9

Done.

IronZorg89 · 11 Aug 2019

jimbo45 said:

Hi there

by that do you mean the "Notification area"

If you do then mine's working correctly -- but remember I'm on Workstation edition so it might not be exactly as W10 PRO.

I'm also not sure what the search problem is --mine seems just fine (but again I'm on WORKSTATION edition)

Attachment 242882

My only issues with this build are : extra language installation -- doesn't yet work properly (Office language does OK though) and I can't get any VM with VMWare to use Bridged networking -- If you use HYPER-V I think that's the equivalent to using an external network switch -- you need to have this type of connection for accessing all sorts of other computers / devices on a LAN -- NAT is only useful in a smallish number of cases.

I also have problems with that perennial Windows irritant of path + file names being limited to 266 chars - but that's a general windows problem. The REFS file system is meant to fix that but then any Linux NAS can't read or write to those so recovering data from your NAS back to Windows on these drives is useless. !!!!

Once you start getting NAS's with >10TB of HDD space and 10000's of music tracks etc (I have around 140,000 directories with about 230,000 tracks !!) - you'll soon run into the 266 file length problem on Windows -- Unix / Linux systems including mobile phones handle these names properly - isn't it about time windows did too instead of showing these long file names as 8.3 old Dos type file names !!!

Cheers
jimbo

That's exactly what I am talking about:

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I really don't know how to fix it and it seems I am the only one with the problem for now. God knows how many fixes I have tried, but to no avail. At one point I think I ought to leave the Insiders Program and install a stable version of the OS, i.e., 19H1 and then subscribe back to it and see what happens.

Regarding Workstations, I am not really well versed in the matter. I Know you can run multiple OSes on them, same For Enterprises but I have never tried one. More to your point, I know you probably already have all the documentation in as much as path too long is concerned, but it never hurts to try to help:

How To Fix ‘Filename Is Too Long’ Issue In Windows:

Posts from Help Desk Geek for 07/17/2019

IronZorg89 · 11 Aug 2019

JGToy said:

I just try this one with no changes but on your first suggestion I took the option of updating the driver so, I went back to an old Marvell driver (was using for the last 6 months or so a Marvell driver from Microsoft).
And with the Marvell original driver at least I have not been kicked off once (hoping it stay) but the "No network access" still present.

I will probably be going back to 18950 and using your suggestion of updating again to 18956 with an ISO.

Really appreciated your time finding all those information for me (I even saved them for future use).

That would be the logical thing to do, i.e., going back to 18950 and try to update with UUPDump ISO, but before just try the simple steps mentioned in my post #139 about resetting Network from the old tenforums' thread. It only takes two or three clicks. It seems to have worked for some members.

I am really looking forward to seeing you fix this issue. LOL

Steven Campoli · 11 Aug 2019

In program files / Windows apps folder, what's safe to delete, I deleted some store apps and see many folders in here...

jimbo45 · 11 Aug 2019

IronZorg89 said:

That's exactly what I am talking about:

I really don't know how to fix it and it seems I am the only one with the problem for now. God knows how many fixes I have tried, but to no avail. At one point I think I ought to leave the Insiders Program and install a stable version of the OS, i.e., 19H1 and then subscribe back to it and see what happens.

Regarding Workstations, I am not really well versed in the matter. I Know you can run multiple OSes on them, same For Enterprises but I have never tried one. More to your point, I know you probably already have all the documentation in as much as path too long is concerned, but it never hurts to try to help:

How To Fix ‘Filename Is Too Long’ Issue In Windows:

Posts from Help Desk Geek for 07/17/2019

Hi there

@IronZorg89
thanks for the info -- BUT regarding Long Path + File names in Windows : 266 chars :

Been there, seen it, done it, bought the T-Shirt etc.

The problem is that Windows won't display these files in anything other than 8.3 Dos format whatever settings you have in registry etc etc. I think they need to change the file manager / explorer interface GUI -- after all if Android phone, iPhones, Mac OS and any sort of Linux / Unix / other (IBM s/390 for example) OS can display these properly why can't Windows.

The solution also isn't to RENAME long files --that's a Bovine suggestion by somebody who perhaps has only 5 or so of these files - and if you are sharing across networks it's also totally BONKERS !!!!! -- I've got around 20 TB of NAS storage here so I'm not spending months renaming things just so a few Windows clients can see the files properly !!!

Here's what I mean

Linux display of long file names

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Windows offers these !!!!!!! for the same files

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Cheers
jimbo