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  1. Posts : 230
    Windows 10, 8.1, 7, and Vista
       07 Aug 2015 #41

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    Yes,,, but others have said they can use it when they did a clean install. still..very odd.
    Right, but he's using W10 Enterprise, not Home or Pro.
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  2.    07 Aug 2015 #42

    bobjoe said: View Post
    Right, but he's using W10 Enterprise, not Home or Pro.
    Ok..
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  3.    07 Aug 2015 #43

    Works as advertised on my other 10 Pro install. And yes that was a clean install. Install was done with Media created via the Media Creation Tool.
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  4.    07 Aug 2015 #44

    Does this issue only occur in VM installs maybe? I didn't read the whole other thread, just read the first few posts.
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  5. Posts : 1,582
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       07 Aug 2015 #45

    Remember that there are updates that take place during install, even clean install. Even if you do not ask for them, unless disconnected from the internet.

    I am not saying this is so, but the registry fix for the missing Preview menu item in File Explorer, the missing association of multiple image formats for Photo Viewer, just can simply be applied by running a small .reg merge file, and that could be done easily on an update at install time or any security update thereafter.

    That small piece of the registry, exactly those registry entries from Windows 8.1 (and probably the same back to XP, I have not checked!) can be run on an intact registry or one that has some missing entries, without prior checking that the registry has a problem, so it could be a blanket fix.

    I also do not know if Defender definition updates contain registry fixes, but I would be surprised if they don't, in order to eradicate damage done by malware that writes to the registry. The same goes for 3rd party antimalware or AV utilities. The difference would be that 3rd party apps may be later in receiving notice of registry changes that have a null threat rating, but a potential loophole for some as-yet unknown exploit.

    Having said that, I have "Windows 10 Enterprise Evaluation, Windows license for 86 days build 10240" from the TechNet evaluation page that has exactly the same photo viewer problem and exactly the same missing registry entries for photoviewer.dll that have caused the problem elsewhere:
    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll]
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell]
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print]
    "NeverDefault"=""
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\command]
    @=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,\
      00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,72,00,75,00,\
      6e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,\
      00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,\
      25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,50,00,68,00,6f,\
      00,74,00,6f,00,20,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,50,00,68,00,\
      6f,00,74,00,6f,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,\
      00,22,00,2c,00,20,00,49,00,6d,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,\
      5f,00,46,00,75,00,6c,00,6c,00,73,00,63,00,72,00,65,00,65,00,6e,00,20,00,25,\
      00,31,00,00,00
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\DropTarget]
    "Clsid"="{60fd46de-f830-4894-a628-6fa81bc0190d}"
    rather than the correct code:

    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll]
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell]
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open]
    "MuiVerb"="@photoviewer.dll,-3043"
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open\command]
    @=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,\
    00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,72,00,75,00,\
    6e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,\
    00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,\
    25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,50,00,68,00,6f,\
    00,74,00,6f,00,20,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,50,00,68,00,\
    6f,00,74,00,6f,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,\
    00,22,00,2c,00,20,00,49,00,6d,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,\
    5f,00,46,00,75,00,6c,00,6c,00,73,00,63,00,72,00,65,00,65,00,6e,00,20,00,25,\
    00,31,00,00,00
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open\DropTarget]
    "Clsid"="{FFE2A43C-56B9-4bf5-9A79-CC6D4285608A}"
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print]
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\command]
    @=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,\
    00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,72,00,75,00,\
    6e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,\
    00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,\
    25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,50,00,68,00,6f,\
    00,74,00,6f,00,20,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,50,00,68,00,\
    6f,00,74,00,6f,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,\
    00,22,00,2c,00,20,00,49,00,6d,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,\
    5f,00,46,00,75,00,6c,00,6c,00,73,00,63,00,72,00,65,00,65,00,6e,00,20,00,25,\
    00,31,00,00,00
    
    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\DropTarget]
    "Clsid"="{60fd46de-f830-4894-a628-6fa81bc0190d}"
    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Works as advertised on my other 10 Pro install. And yes that was a clean install. Install was done with Media created via the Media Creation Tool.
    Media Creation Tool produces firstly a "Panther" folder, containing an xml "snapshot" of the system running the Media Creation Tool in order to make the upgrade on that machine for which it was intended as smooth as possible. It also checks the licensed key of the system it was run on in windlp.state.xml:

    HTML Code:
    <DownloadFileSizeX64>0</DownloadFileSizeX64>
    
    <DownloadUrlX86>http://fg.ds.b1.download.windowsupdate.com/c/updt/2015/07/10240.16384.150709-1700.th1_clientpro_ret_x86fre_en-gb_138d74496ff2262811b4584824d4ae4573941e3a.esd</DownloadUrlX86>
    
    <DecryptionKeyX86>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</DecryptionKeyX86>
    
    <DownloadFileHashX86>138d74496ff2262811b4584824d4ae4573941e3a</DownloadFileHashX86>
    
    <TargetISO>U:\win10 downloads\Windows.iso</TargetISO>
    
    <ProductKey>VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T</ProductKey>
    In this case run from a Pro version of Windows 10.10240.

    QED

    Note the download URL for the required version of Windows 10 to upgrade to, the decryption key for the ESD file, the filehash key and the product key of the windows installation it was run from.
    Last edited by Fafhrd; 07 Aug 2015 at 17:30.
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  6. Posts : 510
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit; Windows 10 TP; KDE Neon
       07 Aug 2015 #46

    On my clean Windows 10 Pro installation, in which the Photo App is removed, Windows Photo Viewer opens only .TIFF and .TIF image files. There is absolutely no way I can associate it with .jpg, .png, or other image file types. I don't mind because I use the Adobe Bridge.

    I have another Win 10 Pro installation, on this dual boot system, which is almost completely untouched. No tweaks, nothing uninstalled, I keep it as "virgin" as possible, wanting to use it as TP (insider), and to test how the new updates will behave. I have not tested yet IF on this one I can associate all the image file types with the photo viewer. I don't think I will be able to, though.

    Returning to the topic now, I am really looking forward to this Service Release! I still have a few bugs, like the Notifications Icon lighting up with no reason (nothing in the Action Center), the Mail App is still not functioning properly all the time and finally...the blurry text issue

    I also get a very fast alert from the Action Center, to turn my antivirus on.
    It disappears immediately and there's nothing in the Action Center, of course.
    Last edited by Joanne; 07 Aug 2015 at 17:35.
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  7.    07 Aug 2015 #47

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    ...If they update their ISO files, I'll go that route instead.
    I hope they do.
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  8.    07 Aug 2015 #48

    OK. looks like I got royally confused? I missed the distinction between Photo App and Photo Viewer. My default shows just the word Photo, which I took to be the Photo Viewer but its the Photo App. Now I'm on the same page. Whether its a bug or not that I'm not sure? One replaced the other right? And some code got left over? Sorry for the confusion and miss information.
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  9. Posts : 1,582
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       07 Aug 2015 #49

    I think it is developer code so that they could test the photo app without the old default Photo Viewer getting in the way.

    Replace it with the 8.1 code, and everything runs as we remember.
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  10. Posts : 510
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit; Windows 10 TP; KDE Neon
       07 Aug 2015 #50

    Fafhrd said: View Post
    I think it is developer code so that they could test the photo app without the old default Photo Viewer getting in the way.

    Replace it with the 8.1 code, and everything runs as we remember.
    OFF TOPIC:

    I appreciate your post #45, just please sit back for a second and imagine the average Joe Dow struggling to discover why the Photo Viewer is not working as expected. I am the average Joanne Dowanne and I can reassure you it is a p.... in the a.... and it starts to become tiring to edit the Registry so much, and to have to learn the usage of the Group Policy, and...and...and...

    Anyway. Let's hope this Service Release will fix a few things.

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