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My 2 VM's installed just fine. My 2 physical machines rolled back so many times they've worn the tread off.

I'm just gonna call mine 18398.5 and be done with it!

thewizardoz said:

Clearly... she is not talking about "the rest of us" whose install(s) go without a hitch!! She is talking about those/us who have real problems with installs sometimes.

I know that but it's curious how come some got it easy way, some not so easy (multiple tries or by ISO) and some can't install it at all.

My 2 VMs upgraded just fine. Went from the 5 months old 18841 build to 18941 without a glitch. I wonder if one of the 189xx builds broke something that makes the upgrade fail for some!?

techquest said:

Maybe its just VM's update without issues as they have no real hardware or drivers issues for updates to contend with.

Nah, I've had a lot of issues with VMs in the past too. Even clean install would not work. Made no sense what so ever. But yeah, a VM certainly removes some of the possible issues one may encounter. Especially hardware issues, but usually the issue has been Windows itself.

thewizardoz said:

Clearly... she is not talking about "the rest of us" whose install(s) go without a hitch!! She is talking about those/us who have real problems with installs sometimes.

Ummm, could y'all point me to the post you're talking about? I'm lost as a goose.

Edit: Ummm, found it.

DooGie said:

Now there's a post full of vitriol if ever I saw one

Wynona said: View Post
Ya know what? There are lots and lots of things I have no interest in. To me, games are an absolute waste of my time. To a gamer, they're some of the best life has to offer. Where do I get off telling Microsoft they should spend less time on ridiculous periferal things like games?

And guess what ... there are folks who like their emojis. I like 'em and play with them a lot while talking to friends and family on Skype. It's fun to add a little funny face to a statement. Are they a necessary part of Windows? Heck no! But, neither are games! Also, when it comes right down to it, I'm pretty sure Microsoft bought the majority of emojis/emoticons included in Windows, rather than have their engineers create 'em.

Then there's Paint, which has been a part of Windows for years and years (not always called Paint). Microsoft had a brainstorm (or was that a brain fart?) gave us Paint 3D and told us Paint would be removed from Windows. Nope, not a necessary part of Windows; many, many, many far better 3rd party graphics apps. However, Microsoft changed their mind about removing it when a huge number of people started to object about Paint's removal.

What did I say to upset you, Doogie? I thought I was defending everyone's right to have this or that part of Windows; don't take it out just because I don't care for it.

johngalt said:

Foudn a good write up:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...6ae469b?page=3

The blog post that it links to does not redirect correctly - I'm searchign for all of Gabe's blogs, seems M$ has (re)moved them for some reason.

But read the comments:

Oh, do I remember that one, John! Everyone was elated that we would get a free copy of Windows 10, then Gabe came back and burst the bubble! He had made a mistake. IIRC, the post Gabe had made was changed without notice and no one could find it again. At least I couldn't.

And it didn't matter so much to those who already had Windows 7/8 and were planning to upgrade anyway. I think I had three copies of Windows 7 I won through various programs at that time. And everything from TechNet, so I was covered.

CountMike said:

I know that but it's curious how come some got it easy way, some not so easy (multiple tries or by ISO) and some can't install it at all.

Yep, I got 18936 the easy way and wasn't aware of the problem until I read the Known Issues of 18941. I went for it (because 18936 had installed correctly), and it also installed the easy way. :)

techquest said:

Maybe its just VM's update without issues as they have no real hardware or drivers issues for updates to contend with.

Nah, Techquest. I don't do VMs. All of my installations are hardware related and both 18936 and 18941 installed the first try. Who knows what the real problem is ...