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  1. jimbo45's Avatar
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       #150

    techquest said: View Post
    Don't know why that would be @jimbo as it's common knowledge and kind of puts things in perspective. My guess though is one day too big will be too far, especially where governments are concerned.

    Makes you laugh as complaining about the successes of probably the worlds greatest advancement in computing would not be happening if it weren't for Microsoft in the first place.

    Hi there
    @techquest

    I do agree -- actually I don't in anyway regard Ms like "The Evil Empire" in spite of the fact I tend to use Linux as my main worktop computer and use Windows as VM's.

    I did see an interesting documentary recently back about the times of the Financial Crisis of around 2006 -- I think weren't some Banks bailed out with the mantra "Too Big To Fail".

    However with a global economy and new players like China getting into the act in serious ways we (in the West at least) do need to have serious big players who have the resources and skills to compete with these other sorts of economies -- who have literally Billions of potential consumers.

    However that's a job for the politicians -- I doubt if Ms / Google / Amazon etc will collapse in the near future !!

    BTW are you near Swansea / Cardiff -- I had a fabulous time at Millenium stadium watching Wales play rugby some while ago -- (never played it myself) but a great afternoon -- will remember that for a long time. Loved the singing -- I think the Welsh would win any choral competition on the planet !!!!.


    Cheers
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  2. f14tomcat's Avatar
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)
       #151

    Build works fine on my VMs.
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  3.    #152

    Winuser said: View Post
    The way I see it MS will trade you a licensed version of Windows 10 for your licensed copy of Windows 7 or 8. If it truly was free Windows 10 could be installed and activated on a new computer without needing a license from a older version.
    Most of time insider versions work good enough so they wouldn't sell many official windows but what they could do is to give them free to licensed users for dual boot. I just happened to have couple of W7 licenses from scrapped computers otherwise i wouldn't pa for privilege to test it, ain't that rich.
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  4.    #153

    jimbo45 said: View Post

    I did see an interesting documentary recently back about the times of the Financial Crisis of around 2006 -- I think weren't some Banks bailed out with the mantra "Too Big To Fail".

    However with a global economy and new players like China getting into the act in serious ways we (in the West at least) do need to have serious big players who have the resources and skills to compete with these other sorts of economies -- who have literally Billions of potential consumers.

    However that's a job for the politicians -- I doubt if Ms / Google / Amazon etc will collapse in the near future !!
    Hi @jimbo

    Sadly though good politicians, if you can use that expression, are few and far between these days, no matter where you are in the world.

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    BTW are you near Swansea / Cardiff -- I had a fabulous time at Millenium stadium watching Wales play rugby some while ago -- (never played it myself) but a great afternoon -- will remember that for a long time. Loved the singing -- I think the Welsh would win any choral competition on the planet !!!!.
    Not far from there, used to play for a team called Pontypool, we caused huge waves in rugby in our time, a hard hard game, but best of m8's when we left the field, what happened on the field stayed on the field.

    Not all of Wales can sing but at the Arms park, Millenium Stadium. Principality Stadium, whatever next, then there is always a magic atmosphere, no matter who is playing.
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  5. Kari's Avatar
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       #154

    Winuser said: View Post
    For example if someone wants to legally dual boot Windows 10 and the Insider version then they need two licenses.
    That is simply not true.

    Digital license means that your hardware setup (read: computer) is licensed for a specific edition of Windows 10. Each and every installation, regardless of the version and language of that same edition is automatically activated and licensed.

    A practical example: this "workhorse" laptop of mine is currently running Windows 10 PRO EN-GB edition, Insider Preview build 18941. That's what installed on physical disk. In addition I run Finnish, Swedish and German Insider builds 18041 from native boot virtual hard disks, and the GA version 1903 release in Swedish from another partition.

    Altogether, my boot menu offers me a choice of 5 Windows 10 installations. Whatever OS I select to boot is always activated, with one single digital license.

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    And, before you start splitting the hair, this is completely legal and accordance to EULA. The Windows 10 digital license gives you right to use the licensed edition on that specific hardware.

    Kari
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  6.    #155

    Wynona said: View Post
    Obviously they know about the problem, but did they decide not to fix it or are they still trying to fix it? From my perspective, if 18936 refused to install, and given the Known Issue reported with both 18936 and 18941 I wouldn't bother to go forward. Logic tells me it wouldn't work. And ... I'm one of those who will try anyway, but not this time. Too much evidence to ignore. You probably shouldn't try to go forward, because there's adequate evidence that it won't work. In the end, the decision is yours to make.
    Actually I'm not so sure that is right. I had massive problems updating 18936, but none of those problems showed up when updating 18941. I think M$ should focus more on the important fundamental things, and spend less time on ridiculous periferal things, like emoji's. JMHO.
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  7.    #156

    smactilactus said: View Post
    Actually I'm not so sure that is right. I had massive problems updating 18936, but none of those problems showed up when updating 18941. I think M$ should focus more on the important fundamental things, and spend less time on ridiculous periferal things, like emoji's. JMHO.
    Couldn't agree more, surely it's a no-brainer that emoji's come way down the list in the scheme of things. But it's come a long way since November 10, 1983.
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  8.    #157

    techquest said: View Post
    Guess Microsoft's latest $1.05 Trillion valuation tells them they must be doing something right!
    By that logic, the pharmaceutical companies who rate as some of the highest valuations in business, but also kill millions every year, are doing things right as well. But we all know that this is not the case. So not trying to be a dick, but that is NOT the measure of doing something right...
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  9.    #158

    techquest said: View Post
    Couldn't agree more, surely it's a no-brainer that emoji's come way down the list in the scheme of things. But it's come a long way since November 10, 1983.
    Very true! Can't debate that point. Lol.
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  10.    #159

    CountMike said: View Post
    Most of time insider versions work good enough so they wouldn't sell many official windows but what they could do is to give them free to licensed users for dual boot. I just happened to have couple of W7 licenses from scrapped computers otherwise i wouldn't pa for privilege to test it, ain't that rich.
    I don't think MS would see much of a effect if they had continued to give away Insider builds. Most home user buy OEM computers that have Windows preinstalled. My first Insider build was a free version of Windows 10 Pro. The motherboard died and so did my free version. Both of my Insider Builds now are activated by the OEM version that came preinstalled. That is why I have one Pro version(desktop) and one home version(laptop).
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