Cumulative Update KB4503293 Windows 10 v1903 build 18362.175 - June 11 Win Update

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  1. Posts : 2,450
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #150

    kado897 said:
    Wasn't 1903 it was the last CU.
    Even worse....!!!
    CUs are supposed to solve issues, not introduce new ones. "Old bugs out, new bugs in" is the privilege of New versions (=Feature Updates).
    But that of course applies to well structured Software companies, who release updates following extensive testing by their dedicated test teams and don't rely on the good will of third parties (called "insiders")
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  2. Posts : 31,630
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #151

    NiceAndShy said:
    Ok I rebooted but it didn't give me the choice of upgrading to 1903 and now says I'm running 1809....
    CountMike said:
    Well, that's one step.
    kado897 said:
    Last time I was two releases behind it was several hours between updates. 1903 is being very picky so it may take longer.
    NiceAndShy said:
    You're both right!
    Okay once again I'm given the option of installing 1903...
    I've observed before that the Windows update pages in Settings do not get refreshed until you check for updates. This 'Download and install now' item seems no different, if 1903 is available for your machine it takes a check (manual or automatic) before it appears. That applied to the fix for this bug in 1903 Pro, and for others in the past.


    Bree said:
    If you set a non-zero number of days to defer features updates or quality updates then they disappear from the Advanced options.

    It's not a 'timeframe', as such. The contents of these Windows Update settings pages are only refreshed when you check for updates, either the automatic check or manually. Set a number of days then check for updates will make the option(s) disappear straight away.

    Using Regedit to set 'DeferFeaturesUpdatePeriodInDays' or 'DeferQualtyUpdatePeriodInDays' back to zero in the key HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UX\Settings will make them visible again (after another 'check for updates').
    Known issues for Windows 10 May 2019 Update version 1903 - post #67
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  3. Posts : 50,055
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 21H1 and insider builds
       #152

    ddelo said:
    Even worse....!!!
    CUs are supposed to solve issues, not introduce new ones. "Old bugs out, new bugs in" is the privilege of New versions (=Feature Updates).
    But that of course applies to well structured Software companies, who release updates following extensive testing by their dedicated test teams and don't rely on the good will of third parties (called "insiders")
    Insiders didn't even get to test that one. I think it was a security update.
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  4. Posts : 2,450
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #153

    kado897 said:
    Insiders didn't even get to test that one. I think it was a security update.
    Exactly my point...no third party good will = new issues!
    No objection Keith....I was just stating the general idea, behind Microsoft's attitude.
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  5. Posts : 50,055
    Windows 10 Home 64bit 21H1 and insider builds
       #154

    ddelo said:
    Exactly my point...no third party good will = new issues!
    No objection Keith....I was just stating the general idea, behind Microsoft's attitude.
    You can understand why MS doesn't release security updates to insiders and why they may be more prone to issues than others. They have to be done in secret and there is always a time pressure.
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  6. Posts : 2,450
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #155

    kado897 said:
    You can understand why MS doesn't release security updates to insiders and why they may be more prone to issues than others. They have to be done in secret and there is always a time pressure.

    Yep, it's called security and consequently security updates cannot be released to insiders !!!
    The problem remains though...not sufficient testing, by people who know what's going on behind the scenes. And even if they don't know the bits and bytes, they can communicate internally (=faster) with the behind the scenes players.
    We have all worked under strict deadlines and minor issues are understandable, but software testing is as major as development and that is undeniable...to all but Microsoft.
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  7. Posts : 1,602
    W10 Enterprise
       #156

    ddelo said:
    Yep, it's called security and consequently security updates cannot be released to insiders !!!
    The problem remains though...not sufficient testing, by people who know what's going on behind the scenes. And even if they don't know the bits and bytes, they can communicate internally (=faster) with the behind the scenes players.
    We have all worked under strict deadlines and minor issues are understandable, but software testing is as major as development and that is undeniable...to all but Microsoft.
    Sorry but it's not just MS, loads of companies have issues, Boeing being one of the latest big exposers. MS being at the front end of computing technology is a big target, and users have big demands. My guess is if we waited for stable releases to come out then the forum users and insiders would be bored to tears with nothing to do.
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  8. Posts : 2,450
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #157

    techquest said:
    My guess is if we waited for stable releases to come out then the forum users and insiders would be bored to tears with nothing to do.

    Excellent point!!
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  9. Posts : 29,078
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
       #158

    ddelo said:
    Even worse....!!!
    CUs are supposed to solve issues, not introduce new ones. "Old bugs out, new bugs in" is the privilege of New versions (=Feature Updates).
    But that of course applies to well structured Software companies, who release updates following extensive testing by their dedicated test teams and don't rely on the good will of third parties (called "insiders")
    And just what would you call us, Ddelo? Look around and you'll see any number of folks (from OEMs, devs and coders all the way down to newbies) who are not only dedicated, but work their butts off to find bugs. In my book, that's dedication!

    I keep seeing complaints about Microsoft's sloppy updates, but nothing about the fact that we're mostly the ones who can figure out what's wrong with any particular problem.

    And yep, I'm one of those bottom of the ladder testers; however, with my testing, I'm learning more and more, with my skill set being slowly raised bit by bit.

    I guess I'd say, "Don't sell the Insiders short; Microsoft needs us as much as we need Microsoft.
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  10. Posts : 2,450
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #159

    Wynona said:
    And just what would you call us, Ddelo? Look around and you'll see any number of folks (from OEMs, devs and coders all the way down to newbies) who are not only dedicated, but work their butts off to find bugs. In my book, that's dedication!

    I keep seeing complaints about Microsoft's sloppy updates, but nothing about the fact that we're mostly the ones who can figure out what's wrong with any particular problem.

    And yep, I'm one of those bottom of the ladder testers; however, with my testing, I'm learning more and more, with my skill set being slowly raised bit by bit.

    I guess I'd say, "Don't sell the Insiders short; Microsoft needs us as much as we need Microsoft.

    My dear Wynona, if by "us" you mean the insiders, I would call all the insiders, good people at heart, who would spare their precious time to provide bug fixing for Microsoft products.
    But, as far as I know, that's what they are. Good people, outside the company, that spare time and effort to help.
    They're not getting paid for anything, thus besides their good will, they cannot assume any responsibility for errors and since they do not work (=getting paid) for Microsoft they cannot get any blame for anything.

    The point I was trying to make, is that Microsoft, as an organization, with millions of customers, should have paid more attention i.e resources (people, time, funds) to provide its customers a robust Operating system and avoid stupid mistakes, like the 1809 fiasco! Nothing more, nothing less!
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