New Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast+Skip Build 18898 (20H1) - May 15 Insider

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  1. DooGie's Avatar
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       #150

    cereberus said: View Post
    This is as I said earlier, it can only be issued to Slow Ring. I have not seen any statement from MS to say 19H2 will only be a bug fix. I think people are just adding 2+2 and making 5 and all we see is unsubstantiated hearsay.
    I wonder what the ratio of Slow to Fast users is.

    If policy is only to release 19H2 to Slow, then I fear it will hardly be tested at all and MS might as well not bother.

    I think that is a pessimistic view cereberus. There are plenty of users around running multiple machines so there is opportunity for users to run one on the slow Ring. MS must feel there is some value in lower ring opinions for them to release builds to the RP Ring a month before the release of 1903.
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  2. DooGie's Avatar
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    Kari said: View Post
    Microsoft has made it quite clear, that from now on, Slow Ring is for next release, and Fast Ring for release after that. Skippy will be the same than Fast, until it will be forked to separate ring.

    I do not want to speculate, but this is how I think we will go to the future:
    • Slow Ring will get first 19H2 pre-release build most probably by the end of this month, but latest by the end of first half of 2019
    • Fast Ring will continue getting 20H1 pre-release builds until April 2020 (about a month before 20H1 GA release), and then start receiving 21H1 pre-release builds

    Naturally, this means that Slow Ring Insiders, those testing next release 19H2 do not get as many builds as in Fast Ring Insiders in previous system. All this indicates that Microsoft has knowingly chosen longer development cycle, most of new features being tested in Fast Ring for release after next one.

    Kari

    Very nicely put Kari.
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  3.    #152

    Kari said: View Post
    I do not want to speculate, but this is how I think we will go to the future:
    • Slow Ring will get first 19H2 pre-release build most probably by the end of this month, but latest by the end of first half of 2019
    • Fast Ring will continue getting 20H1 pre-release builds until April 2020 (about a month before 20H1 GA release), and then start receiving 21H1 pre-release builds
    • Second half year releases (19H2, 20H2, 21H2) will be minor ones, main focus being in first yearly releases (19H1, 20H1, 21H1).
    If this turns out to be the case, I'll probably need to change my Fast and Skippy Insider machines to Slow and Fast. I can't imagine much of an interesting future for Skippy with this scenario.

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  4.    #153

    Kari said: View Post
    Microsoft has made it quite clear, that from now on, Slow Ring is for next release, and Fast Ring for release after that. Skippy will be the same than Fast, until it will be forked to separate ring.

    I do not want to speculate, but this is how I think we will go to the future:
    • Slow Ring will get first 19H2 pre-release build most probably by the end of this month, but latest by the end of first half of 2019
    • Fast Ring will continue getting 20H1 pre-release builds until April 2020 (about a month before 20H1 GA release), and then start receiving 21H1 pre-release builds
    • Second half year releases (19H2, 20H2, 21H2) will be minor ones, main focus being in first yearly releases (19H1, 20H1, 21H1).

    Naturally, this means that Slow Ring Insiders, those waiting now 19H2 builds do not get as many builds as Fast Ring Insiders did in previous system. All this indicates that Microsoft has knowingly chosen longer development cycle, most of new features being tested in Fast Ring for release after next one.

    Kari
    On this basis, Skippy is pretty much pointless now then, and I feel there is a big danger 19H2 will only be tested by a limited number of users.

    To be fair, the situation somewhat sorts itself out once 19H2 is released as 20H1 (we assume) will move to Slow Ring having had reasonable testing.

    However, this would mean Slow Ring users are always six months (at least) behind the Fast Ring. I am not sure why anybody would really want to use Slow Ring now as it would be so slow as to be almost pointless.
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  5.    #154

    I've moved my insider machine back to fast.
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  6. kado897's Avatar
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       #155

    swarfega said: View Post
    I've moved my insider machine back to fast.
    Thinking of moving my RP to Slow if it's going to get 19H2.
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  7.    #156

    Wasn't RP merged with 1903 when it was released?
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  8. kado897's Avatar
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       #157

    swarfega said: View Post
    Wasn't RP merged with 1903 when it was released?
    Yes RP is now the same a GA.
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  9.    #158

    Thought so, I was on RP then clean installed 1903.
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  10. Kari's Avatar
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       #159

    Did you geeks know that you can clone a HDD or SSD in amazing speed with WInPE and DISM, no third party tool required?

    DISM - Clone and Deploy using FFU Image
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