Cumulative Update KB4493509 Windows 10 v1809 Build 17763.437 - April 9 Win Update

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  1. slicendice's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v2004 Build 19041.264 (Branch: Release Preview)
       #210

    IronZorg89 said:
    . Still with you on this!
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  2. galileo's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro
       #211

    ddelo said:
    Just my two cents on that.
    I've been using Windows Defender (and its older sibling Microsoft Security Essentials, during the W7 era), without any issue at all, for at least 9 years. It serves the purpose and I don't see any reason, why pay the premium AVs to do the exact same thing + add headaches.
    As a side note, the last 4 years I also added Malwarebytes in the equation and I'm more than pleased with their performance.
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  3. muchomurka's Avatar
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    finally UPGRADED from ltsc to win7
       #212

    without any issue at all

    - no way to stop download definitions (even if winupdate is disabled)
    - no way to set download cadency
    - nonfunctional exceptions
    - zero control over file types & archives
    - no way to set proxy
    - no way to download definitions from local storage
    - no password protection
    etc etc etc

    not to mention corporate functions like central status reporting, remote deploying & repairing, logical grouping, policies applying...

    There are many reasons to prefer other AV over that MS crap.

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    And as I wrote here, that KB4493509 versus Avira issue is already resolved 4 days before, piepowder has different problem.
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  5. Ztruker's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro X64 1909 18363.815
       #214

    muchomurka said:
    - no way to stop download definitions (even if winupdate is disabled)
    - no way to set download cadency
    - nonfunctional exceptions
    - zero control over file types & archives
    - no way to set proxy
    - no way to download definitions from local storage
    - no password protection
    etc etc etc

    not to mention corporate functions like central status reporting, remote deploying & repairing, logical grouping, policies applying...
    No of this means anything to me nor to most people. Enterprise, yes, I can them needing total control but home users, no. I want good protection delivered as needed.
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  6. kado897's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home 64bit v1909 and insider builds
       #215

    Ztruker said:
    No of this means anything to me nor to most people. Enterprise, yes, I can them needing total control but home users, no. I want good protection delivered as needed.
    Enterprises tend not to rely on AVs but build firewalls and DMZs.
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  7. muchomurka's Avatar
    Posts : 710
    finally UPGRADED from ltsc to win7
       #216

    No of this means anything to me nor to most people.

    You cannot know what other people need. You cannot command what is important for them even if they are minority.

    Enterprise, yes, I can them needing total control but home users, no.

    640 kB ought to be enough for anybody...

    I want good protection delivered as needed.

    Very practical in foreign country with limited data tariff.

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    Summary: I need good protection software which is under my control and which includes tools necessary for me.
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  8. muchomurka's Avatar
    Posts : 710
    finally UPGRADED from ltsc to win7
       #217

    Enterprises tend not to rely on AVs but build firewalls and DMZs.

    Many employees work out of office, so corporates use both ways (and more) of protection.
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  9. kado897's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home 64bit v1909 and insider builds
       #218

    muchomurka said:
    Many employees work out of office, so corporates use both ways (and more) of protection.
    True.
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  10. VBF's Avatar
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    Posts : 519
    Win 10 Pro
       #219

    Ztruker said:
    No of this means anything to me nor to most people. Enterprise, yes, I can them needing total control but home users, no. I want good protection delivered as needed.
    I'm surprised you say that especially as a Gold / VIP Member / Guru

    Even on my home machines, I'm still running Windows Pro mainly because i want full control over as many functions as possible. Therefore I choose to use a 3rd party AV/Firewall (Norton) to help get that control.

    On the other hand, (playing Devil's Advocate here) most home users don't even know of the existence of TenForums and wouldn't know how to set up 3rd party programmes anyway For them an "out of the box" solution should do what's needed.

    I must agree with @muchomurka's summary in #216..
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