Cumulative Update KB4493509 Windows 10 v1809 Build 17763.437 - April 9 Win Update

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  1. IronZorg89's Avatar
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       #100

    D34DL1N3R said:
    The article says they have only prevented the update for Avira users on Windows 7, 8.1 and Windows Server versions. It also states that only ArcaBit antivirus is confirmed to cause problems with Windows 10.

    Really Microsoft?
    It has been a well known fact for a while that when users are having problems installing Updates, be it FUs or CUs, it is sometimes recommended to either uninstall the A-V third-party app or uninstall the updates and pause them in order to not receive them right after. Either way, the skinny is that third-party A-V Software can prevent those updates from installing normally.

    The main reason is that ISVs (Independent Software Vendors) or OEMs don't have enough time to test the updates internally in order to pinpoint possible issues.
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  2. Posts : 12
    Widnows 10
       #101

    IronZorg89 said:
    It has been a well known fact for a while that when users are having problems installing Updates, be it FUs or CUs, it is sometimes recommended to either uninstall the A-V third-party app or uninstall the updates and pause them in order to not receive them right after. Either way, the skinny is that third-party A-V Software can prevent those updates from installing normally.

    The main reason is that ISVs (Independent Software Vendors) or OEMs don't have enough time to test the updates internally in order to pinpoint possible issues.
    I'm fully aware. I don't think you understand what I was trying to get across. Shrug.
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  3. IronZorg89's Avatar
    Posts : 1,662
    Windows 10 pro x64-bit
       #102

    D34DL1N3R said:
    I'm fully aware. I don't think you understand what I was trying to get across. Shrug.
    Your point was and I quote: "The article says they have only prevented the update for Avira users on Windows 7, 8.1 and Windows Server versions". My point is if Avira can cause problems for the versions you mentioned, it can also cause problems for Win 10's updates in as much as Avira has not issued a fix yet for the problem.

    I will also make a reference to post #92.
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  4. Brink's Avatar
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro for Workstations build 19631
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       #103

    "Improvements and fixes" updated 4/15. See first post for more details.
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  5. Posts : 39
    W10
       #104

    next update comment


    Avira files downloaded last night. No change. Still no boot up. Still switch off then on again - then works. Hence no resolution as yet. Informed Avira their fix has not worked.
    Sigh.
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  6. Posts : 149
    Windows 10 Pro x64 v2004 build 19041.207
       #105

    i run Avira and after this cumulative update to 17763.437 i had regular freezes where i had to wait a minute or longer before a web page got shown when i was browsing. i've just done a clean install of windows and WU downloaded the cumulative update in the background and i had no choice but to install it. mmmm but for now i won't be installing Avira AV until i see another update from MS or Avira. i can't remember what version Avira i had running but it was updated to the latest.

    where can i get v1903 without sign-up to Windows Insider? or should i just wait like everybody else? end of May is still over a month away..
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  7. f14tomcat's Avatar
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)
       #106

    biker66 said:
    i run Avira and after this cumulative update to 17763.437 i had regular freezes where i had to wait a minute or longer before a web page got shown when i was browsing. i've just done a clean install of windows and WU downloaded the cumulative update in the background and i had no choice but to install it. mmmm but for now i won't be installing Avira AV until i see another update from MS or Avira. i can't remember what version Avira i had running but it was updated to the latest.

    where can i get v1903 without sign-up to Windows Insider? or should i just wait like everybody else? end of May is still over a month away..
    Wait. It is still early on in testing phase of Release Preview. Not worth jumping the gun and wish you hadn't. There are issues with 18362 still to be resolved. Too early to commit it as your Production machine. If you have plenty of good backups, and are willing to risk it, go ahead. Your choice.
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  8. Posts : 206
    Win-10
       #107

    dustymars said:
    Hum, this morning my laptop would not completely load Windows during boot up. It stopped right before Desktop appeared, so I opened Task Manager to look. All looked okay so I switched users and all hell broke loose. I had to do some fancy footwork and troubleshooting, almost reset Windows but stopped short and the restored to an earlier date. I found three users listed that I have no idea how they got there since I first setup to log-in using my Microsoft Account only. Anyway, it was a mess fixing it.
    After refreshing Windows using the ISO, blah, blah, blah; the Context Menu "New" problem still exists! Weird.
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  9. krzemien's Avatar
    Posts : 559
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #108

    ...so if it was fully and only down to the user when and how system update is performed/installed and what preceding steps need to be taken, then perhaps said user would be able to react prior to installing this update and would have a chance to disable / uninstall (really???) AV suite.

    Which is not possible in Windows 10 for majority of population (Home users).

    Putting aside that I find it a bit silly to have to disable/uninstall AV in 2019 in order to perform system update successfully. Don't even mention this to corporate users & businesses.

    Just sayin'.
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  10. Posts : 39
    W10
       #109

    another status update from here


    Avira pro. Been on and off computer today. Activity log shows several automatic Avira updates today - probably more than any usual virus update. Further, on re-reboot c drive on SSD scan/repair activated automatically - so maybe, just maybe Avira have a fix. I'll let you know next time I'm on - likely tomorrow. But I ain't holding my breath No microsoft updates.
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