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I'm not on my Insider right now, but an interesting experiment......
Enable the service again.
Pull up a split screen with Resource Monitor/Net Traffic on one side, and the Desktop on the other.
Fire up a few non-MS apps and watch what comes alive far as possible telemetry activity.
So far I realize that this problem is not unique to the task manager, it also happens in the Device manager, Services, Disk management, the power options, the local group policy editor and I suspect that in other parts of the system.
Blinking.
(I use that name because this bug reminds me of the blinking arrows of the task manager. )
Not sure if it's just non-MS apps, since I don't see how it could know that in the microsecond the service has to figure it out, but either way, I really have to wonder about the efficiency of having a service that launches and does something every stinking time you open anything on your system. If it's telemetry, I'd like to see specifically what they're so interested in. Surely there's a better way to know what's been run than that, if that's even what they're really after.
Maybe this is a service that I'll routinely disable for efficiency sake, even after the problem is solved. It wouldn't be that difficult to enable it once a week for an hour.
Does everyone agree that Night Light is working correctly again in this build?
Yes, it works, but it has a weird side-effect once it does its thing: grays turn pink-ish. Until you reboot, when things look as you'd expect per your desired color temperature.
The flux beta also does the same thing in this build, suggesting that whatever fix MS put into 18323 has broken something fundamental.
1st set of replies:
Mine still hasn't happened. Must really be an A/B server side thing.
I have all 4 of the ones I first started with. I have 'converted' 3 to outlook.com (by way of creating the same username on outlook.com as an alias, then making the outlook.com the 'primary').
Plus, I use 2 of my HoTMaiL accounts or my Microsoft subs and MSDN subs.
Agreed.
You caught yourself later on down so I can change this reply to just a simple reply....
Same.
Well, more secure than some, not as secure as others. I don't use it for anything outside of Windows and Micro$fot stuff, though, because for a long time their spam filters were so bad they might as well have been non-existent.
Yup.
Well, that depends. If you drive a classic car *as* a classic car, then yeah, but there are plenty of gearheads out there that take classic cars and, for lack of a better word, 'modernize' them, for various reasons - improved safety, improved performance, improved aesthetics, improved functionality, or any combination thereof.
And, TBH, I'd rather waste more gas than have more plastic on my car (and have to pay $2000 USD for a front bumper replacement, as an example).
ANd safety is a very subjective thing - you take a car from the 60s and compare it with a similarly sized car from today (assuming you don't grab a land yacht, as almost none of those exist anymore that aren't SUVs), and you'll find that, while the newer car may be able to stop better, has better traction control, and is light and thus more fuel efficient, the older will probably have a much better chance of letting you walk away fom being T-boned by
I'd like one. Or a corvair or 3.
This also depends upon what your reason for having a car is in the first place - if you make a rather long commute, 5-6 days per week, your outlook might be completely different from someon who, say, works from home and actually drives their car for distances longer than 5 miles no more than twice a week.
Plus, if you're a pretty safe driver, then you mostly have to worry about other drivers - and I'd put older model cars against most things out on the road today, particularly if the other driver is in a larger, SUV-class vehicle.
Sweet! My first car was a '78 Thunderbird that had been upgraded to the 351 Cleveland with boosted output and somehow or another also had an FMX tranny. I had the 'hate tank' throughout college.
Or, these days, the carriers themselves stealing the mail. And as for packages, I've started requesting signatures (when I can) so there are less 'Oh, my pkg was stolen' claims.
Yeah, I still use one of my 4 with the hotmail domain, converted 3 to outlook domain. I grabbed my first soon after it went public, but I now remember it was after M$ took over. I may be incorrect about that, my first (or first 2) might have been before M$ took over, because part of me wants to say I was not a happy camper when they took over, thinking they would mess it up, somehow (and another part of me tells myself that I am misremembering, that I was upset about M$ taking over something else lol).
Not exactly. MSN, IIRC, was more like an AOL subscription service, that offered both online content as well as actual Internet access. HoTMaiL was simply an online-based email service, like Yahoo, GMail, etc.
The version I know and love is all about cars. The NSFW version that I can think of is something that I would have paid a lot more attention to a quarter of a century ago....
Yeah, I think when M$ dropped the subscription for MSN, and made it open, they slowly but surely combined it all together - because for the longest time you'd go to MSN.com and have direct links to Hotmail right there.
I may be wrong, but that is what I remember.
I never got an MSN address - but I made up for it by getting a Yahoo, several GMail accounts, and more than a few other accounts at various other free providers, like hotpop (let the inneundoes commence!), NetZero (whose dialup service I did use for a little while, and kept around as a backup once they introduced their freemium model, until my broadband stabilized), and lots more.
That's another one I didn't use, Live mail, although they did integrate the whole live.com logins for all things HoTMaiL and Micro$oft and even Windows. I stuck with just the HoTMaiL domain.
That would be great - except then you have folks complaining about having to walk past their driveway to get their mail.
My folks *HATE* not having a mailbox in front of their house. They are looking to buy another home and move, and they removed every house from their search 3 months ago that had commmunity mailboxes. Even one that was quite literally less than 250 feet from the community mailboxes.
Some people just don't like them.
But your original post had the wrong build number - and that is the build number that he replied to.
You wrote 18232, this build is 18323 - so he replied that you should probably be posting in the 18232 thread, not realizing that it was a typo on your part.
I personally agree, and I think it engenders quite a few benefits, like getting out for a longer period of time, getting to know your neighbors a little more, etc. - but my parents, immigrants from India, with a completely different mindset, can't stand them
To each their own....
I've had the odd package go missing, but I cannot say for certain anything has ever been stolen.
Thanks, I'll give that a shot.
Good to know.
And I still have a clean header on my desktop that I upgraded from 18312 directly via .ISO.
*fingers crossed* that it is, in fact, a server side A/B test....and I am in the group that never gets it turned on.
Actually, you didn't misread - he typoed the wrong build number, and you made the comment based upon that, not realizing it was a typo (I saw it right away because I make that exact same type of typo, especially with numbers)
Lol yeah, here in GA, it's about the same. Might be why community mailboxes aren't as popular out here, as well.
Amen to that, Atlanta is its own little country within GA, but for almost all of the rest of GA, it's mostly rural.
I'm not quite that much, especially as Publix is now within a few miles of my house, but I am still pretty far ouot in an unincorporated town that only has a post office to its name....
Oh hell, the traffic in the nearest town to me, an AF base town, has gotten murderous. This town has big city traffic but almost none of the drivers have big city driving skills. It makes for a serious mess every day from school letting out to around 6.
Murderous.
Agreed. Especially *because* of the issues.
Roger that .
Thankfully, I'm having neither of those - juts the slow program startup - I honestly thought it was something else, though, but in reading that info you posted, it makes a bit of sense....
I'm just reserving judgment (ATM) before I start spouting conspiracy theories as to why this is happening.
That *is* small....
vvvvvvvvv this.
Otherwise it can always turn on when it wants to.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this.
Cool.
See, I was gonna hold off on my conspiracy theories....lol
I'll do that.
I didn't think to try the apps with devmgr, etc. I tried devmgr, and several other control panel items with TM and had no issues.
I just now tried with devmgr an the flickering is there, but not nearly as disruptive as with TM.
I still say it has to do with the new start program and it grabbing and letting go of graphics 3D resources for whatever reason.
Installation location, for one thing - inclusion of / lack of manifest files, heck, it might already be stored in the registry - the build might have scanned all installed programs and made a list of non-M$ / non-UWP programs....
Odd. Did night light break in 18317, or earlier? I don't recall having a problem in 18312....