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Me too.
Well said, Walt. Although, actually, this website belongs to John, not Shawn @Brink.
I don't waste my time bashing Microsoft and claiming they don't care; of course they care! If Windows is just too hard to use (for me it's not), I'll quit using it and go to something else . . . that's something Microsoft doesn't want to see happen, so they care enough to get our ideas and bug reports. It's been this way since at least 1985 when I was invited to my first beta test. In fact, Microsoft knows it's in their best interest to keep us Insiders happy, so why wouldn't they care? And yeah, I've told Microsoft to leave this or that alone; it's my computer. Bug fixes are posted on Feedback . . . I've posted a couple or three (giving credit to the originator) myself.
We were told early on that the Control Panel would be deprecated (parts of it already are). Knowing that, I dove into the Settings app and learned how to use it. Hands down, if you learn even a part of it, it's much better than the Control Panel ever was. We were told the Snipping Tool would be deprecated, but I chose to use it as long as possible; wonder of wonders, the Snipping Tool evolved into Snip and Sketch. So far, I haven't had time to look at the Sketch part, but I'll get there.
Whatever I need to do is most likely quite possible in Windows 10 (unless it's that ancient program from 20 years ago). I'd hazard a guess that at least 90% of Windows 10 users will never go beneath the surface because they can do everything they want and need to do already.
We're Insiders! We signed up for the headaches and warts caused by each new Build. We're supposed to find bugs, not complain about them and accuse Microsoft of not caring. We're supposed to report 'em so they'll (hopefully) be gone in the next Build. Oh, it wasn't gone when we decided it should be, so that means Microsoft doesn't care?
I'm not a Microsoft basher, but by the same token, I'm not a FanBoi(gal) either. I'm going to continue diving into the deep water . . .
And finally, I think some may have misunderstood what an Insider is; here's an excerpt from the agreement we should all have "signed"
Source: Microsoft Windows Insider Program Agreement Explained in Plain English - TLDRLegalThe software is not production-ready, and can be very unstable. As a result, you may experience occasional crashes and data loss. We are not responsible for such issues, and it is your responsibility to back up your data. By participating in this program, you agree to backup your data frequently. We are collecting data as part of this program, and as a result, your data will be collected according to our privacy policies. In addition, we have the right to automatically update, change or disable the experimental and pre-release software provided through this program.
IMPORTANT NOTICE
The Program Services include experimental and early prerelease software. This means that you may experience occasional crashes and data loss. To recover, you may have to reinstall your applications, the operating system, or re-flash your device. In some instances, once you install the Program Services software, you may not be able to go back to the prior version of the software. Additionally, the Program Services, if installed on a mobile device, may inadvertently damage your device rendering it inoperable. Using the Program Services on some devices may impact your warranty (check with your device provider). By participating, you agree to frequently backup your data.
We are in agreement with about 95% of what you wrote above. I am never looking for a fight whenever I post anything, although sometimes it might look like it. I'm about real information. Where we differ, is when I want to do something that M$ has SO locked down, that even "Take Control" or "Unlocker" will not open it or give me control over it. I've had these situations, where going in and manually trying to change the permissions is completely blocked. Because a builtin admin has more control than we do. For those who bother to learn enough to change vital things, M$ should allow us to do so, and stop locking so much of the os down. They can make it difficult, to keep out the less informed. But allow those who learn how, to Permanently change MOST of the OS to suit their uses.
Also, I have an easy answer to your question, "if Microsoft cared nothing for its customers, how can you explain the existence of the Insider's program and the report hub?" It's simple. Mostly it's to keep M$ in a good light for public opinion. Politics! But even more than that, M$ wants millions of people to give them valuable feedback (On their agenda items ONLY), as the wider the test group, the more pure the results. In return, they use the politics of making you think your opinion matters, with the Hub. But if you pay attention to the empirical history of the Hub, they NEVER fix 90% of the things people are complaining about, because those things don't fall within their agenda. They fix what is within their agenda, and then claim to have listened to the users, and thank them for their feedback. The Hub is too big for us to see every single bit of feedback they get, so we're none the wiser when truly, most of the feedback fell on deaf ears. M$ is the better choice out there, there's no arguing that. But anyone who thinks big corporate cares anything about them other than their money, is living in a fantasy world. And M$ is no different. Now as you said, I truly respect your right to have a different opinion, but that doesn't mean that I believe it's correct. And for the record, I'm not a M$ basher. There are many, many, MANY things I am very thankful for that M$ has developed for us. But I am a realist. So I point out things I believe are wrong, and praise things I believe are great. Not personal, just calling it like I see it.
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Well said all of you. I agree with everything except those points that contradict each other. For those cases I stay as a passive observer, because I can't prove for nor against.
Windows is what it is, learn to live with it and make it the best possible for you or switch to something else. But be warned, `it ain't no rosy road on the other side either`.