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  1. kado897's Avatar
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       4 Weeks Ago #280

    Me too.
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  2. AndreTen's Avatar
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       4 Weeks Ago #281

    sgage said: View Post
    Yes, I'm getting it now, too...
    Could be MS is preparing the Slow ring build
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  3. kado897's Avatar
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       4 Weeks Ago #282

    AndreTen said: View Post
    Could be MS is preparing the Slow ring build
    Either that or they have found something blocking upgrade.
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  4. Brink's Avatar
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       4 Weeks Ago #283
    Last edited by Brink; 4 Weeks Ago at 15:19.
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  5. Wynona's Avatar
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       4 Weeks Ago #284

    waltc said: View Post
    .... Microsoft isn't telepathic, you know... They can't reach into each user's mind and discover what they "really" want--because then they'd come up with 1,576,758,423 different ideas for how Windows *ought* to operate. That's the problem, actually, that most people who stumble have--they cannot get past what they think "ought" to be versus what is. It's kind of a mental block that makes computing a real drag, imo. Much better to find out how things work and make them work for you than to constantly try and beat the round peg into the square hole, if you know what I mean. You mention Edge: I've been in the Insiders for > four years now and have never used Edge. During all of that time I have spent maybe 20 minutes looking at it--don't like it--so don't use it. It's really your decision as to whether you use Edge or you don't. Also think about the fact that in all of that time this is the first time I can recall seeing Microsoft do this "reserve space" thingy.

    <Snip>

    But back to the main theme: make Windows work for you--Microsoft can never tell you what to do with Windows for obvious reasons. This great website of Sean's has dozens of high-quality tutorials on how to do various things in Win10, and most of the time there are several ways of achieving your goals!

    I don't let Microsoft stand in the way of what I want to do--I just do it--and I don't care about whatever Microsoft's opinions might be about that... I use every Insider release the way I want to use it--and if something pops up during my normal use I may actually report it to the hub. But if not, I won't.

    Last, if Microsoft cared nothing for its customers, how can you explain the existence of the Insider's program and the report hub? My own opinion is that if they cared nothing for their customers these things would not exist... I respect your opinion, of course, even if I do not necessarily agree.
    Well said, Walt. Although, actually, this website belongs to John, not Shawn @Brink.

    I don't waste my time bashing Microsoft and claiming they don't care; of course they care! If Windows is just too hard to use (for me it's not), I'll quit using it and go to something else . . . that's something Microsoft doesn't want to see happen, so they care enough to get our ideas and bug reports. It's been this way since at least 1985 when I was invited to my first beta test. In fact, Microsoft knows it's in their best interest to keep us Insiders happy, so why wouldn't they care? And yeah, I've told Microsoft to leave this or that alone; it's my computer. Bug fixes are posted on Feedback . . . I've posted a couple or three (giving credit to the originator) myself.

    We were told early on that the Control Panel would be deprecated (parts of it already are). Knowing that, I dove into the Settings app and learned how to use it. Hands down, if you learn even a part of it, it's much better than the Control Panel ever was. We were told the Snipping Tool would be deprecated, but I chose to use it as long as possible; wonder of wonders, the Snipping Tool evolved into Snip and Sketch. So far, I haven't had time to look at the Sketch part, but I'll get there.

    Whatever I need to do is most likely quite possible in Windows 10 (unless it's that ancient program from 20 years ago). I'd hazard a guess that at least 90% of Windows 10 users will never go beneath the surface because they can do everything they want and need to do already.

    We're Insiders! We signed up for the headaches and warts caused by each new Build. We're supposed to find bugs, not complain about them and accuse Microsoft of not caring. We're supposed to report 'em so they'll (hopefully) be gone in the next Build. Oh, it wasn't gone when we decided it should be, so that means Microsoft doesn't care?

    I'm not a Microsoft basher, but by the same token, I'm not a FanBoi(gal) either. I'm going to continue diving into the deep water . . .

    And finally, I think some may have misunderstood what an Insider is; here's an excerpt from the agreement we should all have "signed"

    The software is not production-ready, and can be very unstable. As a result, you may experience occasional crashes and data loss. We are not responsible for such issues, and it is your responsibility to back up your data. By participating in this program, you agree to backup your data frequently. We are collecting data as part of this program, and as a result, your data will be collected according to our privacy policies. In addition, we have the right to automatically update, change or disable the experimental and pre-release software provided through this program.

    IMPORTANT NOTICE
    The Program Services include experimental and early prerelease software. This means that you may experience occasional crashes and data loss. To recover, you may have to reinstall your applications, the operating system, or re-flash your device. In some instances, once you install the Program Services software, you may not be able to go back to the prior version of the software. Additionally, the Program Services, if installed on a mobile device, may inadvertently damage your device rendering it inoperable. Using the Program Services on some devices may impact your warranty (check with your device provider). By participating, you agree to frequently backup your data.
    Source: Microsoft Windows Insider Program Agreement Explained in Plain English - TLDRLegal
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  6.    4 Weeks Ago #285

    Wynona said: View Post
    Told ya!
    Sorry, just couldn't resist! I'm glad you got rid of the crackling and popping.
    Happy to be "told"! Lol. I'm a results oriented person. So the end result is the only thing I truly care about. Whatever gets me there is fine by me. Cheers!
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  7.    4 Weeks Ago #286

    waltc said: View Post
    .... Microsoft isn't telepathic, you know... They can't reach into each user's mind and discover what they "really" want--because then they'd come up with 1,576,758,423 different ideas for how Windows *ought* to operate. That's the problem, actually, that most people who stumble have--they cannot get past what they think "ought" to be versus what is. It's kind of a mental block that makes computing a real drag, imo. Much better to find out how things work and make them work for you than to constantly try and beat the round peg into the square hole, if you know what I mean. You mention Edge: I've been in the Insiders for > four years now and have never used Edge. During all of that time I have spent maybe 20 minutes looking at it--don't like it--so don't use it. It's really your decision as to whether you use Edge or you don't. Also think about the fact that in all of that time this is the first time I can recall seeing Microsoft do this "reserve space" thingy.

    The great thing about Windows versus something like OS X, for instance, is whereas Microsoft exposes almost everything to the whims of the end user, OS X hides them away from the end user. I had many an odd discussion, for instance, with various OS X users who were of the opinion that OS X didn't require hardware drivers for its devices simply because they couldn't readily see them--as Apple hides them away--buries them in the OS... Apple wants to decide what drivers are used in which Mac, and so on--whereas Windows leaves it up to you, etc. But if you want to really get under the hood, try Linux--my only problem with Linux is mainly that I am an applications guy much more than a tinkerer/hacker these days, and Windows has everybody beat to a pulp on device-driver support and application compatibility and availability.

    But back to the main theme: make Windows work for you--Microsoft can never tell you what to do with Windows for obvious reasons. This great website of Sean's has dozens of high-quality tutorials on how to do various things in Win10, and most of the time there are several ways of achieving your goals!

    I don't let Microsoft stand in the way of what I want to do--I just do it--and I don't care about whatever Microsoft's opinions might be about that... I use every Insider release the way I want to use it--and if something pops up during my normal use I may actually report it to the hub. But if not, I won't.

    Last, if Microsoft cared nothing for its customers, how can you explain the existence of the Insider's program and the report hub? My own opinion is that if they cared nothing for their customers these things would not exist... I respect your opinion, of course, even if I do not necessarily agree.
    We are in agreement with about 95% of what you wrote above. I am never looking for a fight whenever I post anything, although sometimes it might look like it. I'm about real information. Where we differ, is when I want to do something that M$ has SO locked down, that even "Take Control" or "Unlocker" will not open it or give me control over it. I've had these situations, where going in and manually trying to change the permissions is completely blocked. Because a builtin admin has more control than we do. For those who bother to learn enough to change vital things, M$ should allow us to do so, and stop locking so much of the os down. They can make it difficult, to keep out the less informed. But allow those who learn how, to Permanently change MOST of the OS to suit their uses.
    Also, I have an easy answer to your question, "if Microsoft cared nothing for its customers, how can you explain the existence of the Insider's program and the report hub?" It's simple. Mostly it's to keep M$ in a good light for public opinion. Politics! But even more than that, M$ wants millions of people to give them valuable feedback (On their agenda items ONLY), as the wider the test group, the more pure the results. In return, they use the politics of making you think your opinion matters, with the Hub. But if you pay attention to the empirical history of the Hub, they NEVER fix 90% of the things people are complaining about, because those things don't fall within their agenda. They fix what is within their agenda, and then claim to have listened to the users, and thank them for their feedback. The Hub is too big for us to see every single bit of feedback they get, so we're none the wiser when truly, most of the feedback fell on deaf ears. M$ is the better choice out there, there's no arguing that. But anyone who thinks big corporate cares anything about them other than their money, is living in a fantasy world. And M$ is no different. Now as you said, I truly respect your right to have a different opinion, but that doesn't mean that I believe it's correct. And for the record, I'm not a M$ basher. There are many, many, MANY things I am very thankful for that M$ has developed for us. But I am a realist. So I point out things I believe are wrong, and praise things I believe are great. Not personal, just calling it like I see it.
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  8. slicendice's Avatar
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       4 Weeks Ago #287

    @waltc
    @Wynona
    @smactilactus

    Well said all of you. I agree with everything except those points that contradict each other. For those cases I stay as a passive observer, because I can't prove for nor against.

    Windows is what it is, learn to live with it and make it the best possible for you or switch to something else. But be warned, `it ain't no rosy road on the other side either`.
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  9.    4 Weeks Ago #288

    slicendice said: View Post
    @waltc
    @Wynona
    @smactilactus

    Well said all of you. I agree with everything except those points that contradict each other. For those cases I stay as a passive observer, because I can't prove for nor against.Windows is what it is, learn to live with it and make it the best possible for you or switch to something else. But be warned, `it ain't no rosy road on the other side either`.
    Excellent response.
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