Microsoft Wants to Kill Passwords, Starting With Windows 10

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  1. jimbo45's Avatar
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       1 Week Ago #40

    Hi there @Kari

    I don't think in principle the idea is wrong -- some sort of sensible security - especially now as people often have loads of different accounts for all sorts of reasons such as e-commerce sites, bank accounts etc etc but I just don't like the idea of giving out phone numbers to 3rd parties willy nilly -- especially when some of the services that these big players (e.g Microsoft) use are out sourced to a lot of countries where security etc isn't so robust as we are used to in W.Europe and USA.

    In some places in Bangladesh, India and China you can buy a whole wad of Credit card data with pin numbers etc for as little as 20 USD so I'm always wary of these things. You don't often need to go into dodgy areas or the back streets before you get approached - especially if you are the only "Westerner" in the area.

    Cheers
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  2.    1 Week Ago #41

    Just tried Windows 'hello' - fingerprint authorisation on a 2nd hand light-weight ex-business laptop I got for travelling... it failed.

    (And of course then someone will start suggesting MS has uploaded and stored my fingerprint data so when my smart phone is stolen...)

    Actually I don't use the fingerprint sensor on my phone anyway... one bank suggested their app didn't recognise my phone had one 'cos it was Chinese, and asked what would happen if the data for that were disclosed, and I used it to authorise a variety of financial apps. Their first argument proved spurious, as apps on my next Chinese smartphone all recognised its fingerprint sensor.

    And fingerprints are not thought to be so secure, I've heard.

    In the UK more and more institutions are warning that especially when used online, transactions may require interaction by phone. Certain banks do this routinely anyway for certain actions e.g. setting up standing orders.

    However this presents difficulty if overseas and either no roaming or a local SIM in use.

    (Which reminds me- the laptop can even take a SIM...).
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  3.    1 Week Ago #42

    Kari said: View Post
    I am happy to go through all hoops required to keep myself, my data and my devices safe.
    I agree with this, although as the number of online entities I deal with increases, I am certain my overall data security decreases. Such is the cost of convenience, one of the most popular benefits of technological advance.


    Kari said: View Post
    I have decided that to get most out of my Windows devices, I will trust Microsoft. I know they are not selling my data, they are not interested in me as a person to spy me, they do use the telemetrics collected from my devices only to improve Windows and my user experience. I like the way Cortana and Bing learn to know me and my habits, I know I am safe with two factor authentication using my phone.
    @Kari, while I respect your opinion and your experience and expertise very much, unfortunately I cannot agree with any of the statements in this quote. Microsoft is owned and managed by the same species as Facebook or any other business; fallen Mankind. As such, corruption is just as endemic as ambition, integrity, greed, compassion, honesty and dishonesty, and any other human characteristic. I only trust any corporate entity to behave in its own interest first, and that of its customers secondly.

    Therefore, even as I choose to take the risks associated with using the technology provided, I do so by my own choice, and would prefer that the companies providing these technologies leave the choices to me.
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  4.    1 Week Ago #43

    I do not own a cell phone
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  5.    1 Week Ago #44

    Do you have to use your real phone #? i.e. (US) 555-555-5555. I would probably pass out if MS actually called me on my real phone anyway. My cell phone is not in my real name. IMHO it is just a matter of time, if not already, before the "cloud" is breached as well as security password storage apps.
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       1 Week Ago #47

    Hi there
    some Banks now when online Banking require you to use a 1-time code valid for about 10 mins that they will text to a mobile / Landline when you logon .

    While not infallable a "get around" from giving out your actual mobile number is to get a SKYPE Number which can technically be located in any country and have the bank etc text that number.

    It's not as I said infallible but it is better IMO than giving out a mobile number to a 3rd party -- especially as some Banks seem to have persistent troubles with their I.T systems.

    I also agree that any institution that is run by Humans will have all sorts of human failings associated with it no matter how good intentioned the institution wants to be -- Just look at NYSE which probably has the most rigid rules about insider dealing and other protections for investors in the entire world and people still get done for Fraud so nothing wrong with applying some of your own extra safeguards.

    Cheers
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       1 Week Ago #48

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    While not infallable a "get around" from giving out your actual mobile number is to get a SKYPE Number which can technically be located in any country and have the bank etc text that number.
    Thanks for an interesting idea, I am gonna give it a try. I usually give my number to emails/services (like FB) for recovery purposes. Many people refuse to do so and then complain, when they are unable to login.
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       1 Week Ago #49

    Hi,
    Cell numbers/ finger prints/ picture/ pass codes
    Unless I missed something all are passwords so where is this a passwordless world
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