Microsoft Wants to Kill Passwords, Starting With Windows 10
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One of the most effective method for cracking password is a three feet rubber hose
I'm sure there are a few folks out there that would see that as a great night in 
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Nope, nope, nope. Ain't agonna go for it. Passwords and PINs are bad enough. Consider:
1. Wake up and stagger into the kitchen for that first cup (after the necessary room)
2. Stagger into the home office and boot the computer . . . oops, no phone
3. Now where did I leave the phone last night? Hunt going on
4. Ah, there it is, right where I left it
5. So, now it's 20 minutes later and it's too late to get on the computer; gotta get ready for work
6. Get to work and find out you left your phone at home
7. Wait! No phones allowed in the work place
Need I continue? Nah, ain't agonna go for it. My phone is for talking. I do not want it connected to my computer in any way. Some do, and that's fine. It's your right and my right. It ain't Microsoft's right!
It sounds almost as difficult / uninspired as watching p0rn in morsecode on a telegraph 
But no, Microsoft is not getting on my phone either, I have it filled up with Google!
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MS wants a "world without passwords." And, your phone number.
What's wrong with that? Microsoft is not using your phone number to anything else than to send you login code when requested. It is a wonderful, profoundly positive security feature.
Biometrics is just data, like anything else, once it leaks, it is pretty much game over.
I wholeheartedly recommend this to you to help coping with these privacy issues.
Kari
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What's wrong with that? Microsoft is not using your phone number to anything else than to send you login code when requested. It is a wonderful, profoundly positive security feature.
At least not until MS gets caught red handed, like Facebook did...
https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/27/yes-facebook-is-using-your-2fa-phone-number-to-target-you-with-ads/
The chances are that there are other companies that do the same and it's increasingly becoming harder to determine where it's coming from. Well, unless someone is willing to allocate time for determining the source, like Gizmodo did.
I wholeheartedly recommend
this to you to help coping with these privacy issues.
Kari
Privacy in the US is an oxymoron, even when it comes to biometric data, this not withstanding:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/0...nition-dna-and
But you're correct, what MS does or will do with the phone number dwarfs what DHS does with biometric data...
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What's wrong with that? Microsoft is not using your phone number to anything else than to send you login code when requested. It is a wonderful, profoundly positive security feature.
It's not what Microsoft uses my phone number for; it's the hoops I'd have to jump through. So, I don't need the tinfoil hat; just a little more convenience.
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At least not until MS gets caught red handed, like Facebook did...
Are you seriously comparing Facebook to Microsoft? I should send you a bill for a new keyboard, old one might be dead now because when reading your comment, I started laughing aloud so that I spilled a mouthful of whisky on it.
It's not what Microsoft uses my phone number for; it's the hoops I'd have to jump through. So, I don't need the tinfoil hat; just a little more convenience.
I am happy to go through all hoops required to keep myself, my data and my devices safe.
I have decided that to get most out of my Windows devices, I will trust Microsoft. I know they are not selling my data, they are not interested in me as a person to spy me, they do use the telemetrics collected from my devices only to improve Windows and my user experience. I like the way Cortana and Bing learn to know me and my habits, I know I am safe with two factor authentication using my phone.
Kari
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Are you seriously comparing Facebook to Microsoft? I should send you a bill for a new keyboard, old one might be dead now because when reading your comment, I started laughing aloud so that I spilled a mouthful of whisky on it.Kari
Cloud is cloud, regardless of the color of it. Your judgment might have been clouded by TWI and as such, the keyboard damage is on you...
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What if you have to change your phone number, for whatever legitimate reason, then you need to start all over?
I'll just use the traditional sign-in method.
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NO. Fabians? Oh well, where is my tin foil hat?? :)
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What if you have to change your phone number, for whatever legitimate reason, then you need to start all over?
I cannot understand how difficult it seems to be for some users to understand how easy it is to add and remove security phone numbers (mobile and / or landline) and email addresses for their MS accounts.
Always when setting up a new account, the first thing I do is to add both my mobile and landline numbers plus at least two additional security emails.
In emergency situations, like for instance no longer having access to any of the phones I have added, I still have my security emails to use for 2FA, to be able to add new numbers and remove old ones.
Takes me a minute or two to get my MS account really safe and secured.
Kari
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